Kinematics question -- Impulse applied to a plate hanging from a wall

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The discussion revolves around a kinematics problem involving a circular plate that is fixed at a point and can rotate freely. An impulse is applied tangentially to the plate, and participants are exploring how to determine the maximum angle of rotation achieved by the plate using principles of energy conservation and momentum.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between impulse and momentum, questioning the relevance of the tangential direction of the impulse. There is also exploration of the connection between kinetic energy and angular momentum, as well as the implications of using conservation of energy in this context.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on the relationships between different physical concepts. Some participants have raised questions about the calculations presented, while others are suggesting further lines of reasoning to connect the impulse to the resulting motion of the plate.

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There is a mention of the impulse duration being unnecessary for the solution, and participants are considering the implications of the problem's setup, including the fixed point of rotation and the gravitational potential energy involved.

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Homework Statement


A circular plate with radius 0.5 m and mas 5 kg is hung on the wall, fixed at a point that is 0.3 m above its center. The plate can freely rotate about the fixed point with no friction. A very short-duration impulse of 5Ns, along a direction that is tangential to the circumference of the circular plate, is applied at the bottom point of the plate. From energy conservation, what is the maximum angle of rotation (away from the equilibrium position) attained by the plate?

Homework Equations


J=mΔv

The Attempt at a Solution


Ip=1/2 0.52*5+5*0.32=1.075
1/2 mv2=1/2 Iω2
ω=2.16rad/s
How can I calculate the duration of the impulse?
 
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You shouldn't need to know the duration of the impulse.

Instead, think about the information provided that you haven't used yet. For example, why do you think it's relevant that the impulse is tangential to the circular plate? Also, the problem suggests using conservation of energy, but impulse is a concept more closely related to momentum. What is the relationship between kinetic energy and linear momentum? How about between kinetic energy and angular momentum?
 
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mcchoy528 said:
ω=2.16rad/s
How did you deduce this?
 
The rotational kinetic energy is ##K_{rot}=\frac{L^2}{2I}## where ##L=I\omega## is the angular momentum of the plate immediately after the impulse acts.
The translational kinetic energy is ##K_t=0## (we might have to talk in more detail about this) .

From conservation of energy we can see that all the kinetic energy will become gravitational potential energy, so by ##K_{rot}+K_t=U=mgh## we can find the new height ##h## of the center of mass (relative to the center where we take the potential energy to be zero), and then relate ##h=h(\theta)## to the maximum angle ##\theta## attained and solve for the angle ##\theta##.

All that left to be done is to carefully relate ##L## to the impulse 5Ns. Any ideas you got on that?
 
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