Kinetic Energy and Work problem

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The problem involves a trolley subjected to two different horizontal forces while moving along a level, frictionless track. The forces applied are 50 N and 20 N, with specified distances for each phase of motion. Participants are tasked with determining the final kinetic energy and velocity of the trolley.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss dividing the problem into phases to analyze the effects of each force on the trolley's motion. Some question the use of Newton's second law (F=ma) and suggest alternative approaches such as the work-energy theorem. There are discussions about potential mistakes in calculations and the importance of considering initial velocities when transitioning between phases.

Discussion Status

Several participants have offered guidance on using the work-energy theorem as a more straightforward method to solve the problem. There is ongoing exploration of the calculations involved, with some participants noting discrepancies between their results and those found in the textbook. The discussion reflects a mix of interpretations and attempts to clarify the correct approach without reaching a consensus.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework guidelines, which may limit the information they can share or the methods they can use. There is an emphasis on understanding the relationship between work done and kinetic energy changes, as well as the need to account for initial conditions in calculations.

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A horizontal force of 50 N is applied to a 2.0 kg trolley, initially at rest, and it moves a distance of 4.0 m along a level, frictionless track. The force then changes to 20 N and acts for an additional distance of 2.0 m.
(a) What is the final kinetic energy of the trolley?
(b) What is its final velocity?

How do you solve this question?

2. The attempt at a solution:
First i divided the problem into two phases the first is where the force is 50 N and the second where it is 20. Then I found the acceleration for each which enabled me to find final velocity by kinematics equations.
phase 1:
F=ma... 50=2*a...a=25 m/s^2
vf=√(25*2*4)=10√2 m/s
K.E=1/2mv^2...1/2*2*(10√2)^2=50J
phase 2:
F=ma... 20=2a... a=10m/s^2
vf=√(2*10*2)=2√10 m/s
K.E=1/2mv^2... 1/2(2)(2√10)^2=40J

then i added the energy to find final K.E=90 J
however my book says its 240J

for final v it is 2√10=6.32
but book says 15m/s

What am I doing wrong and what's the correct way to solve this

Thanks :)
 
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Why are you using F = ma? Think carefully. Is there a better way to tackle this problem?
 
**Mariam** said:
phase 1:
F=ma... 50=2*a...a=25 m/s^2
vf=√(25*2*4)=10√2 m/s
K.E=1/2mv^2...1/2*2*(10√2)^2=50J
There's nothing wrong with this approach, except for a mistake in the last calculation.

But the easy way to find the energy (and then the speed) is to use the work-energy theorem. And, given the title of this thread, I suspect that that was what they want you to use.
 
What mistake?
 
**Mariam** said:
What mistake?
Oh the answer is 20 m/s.. But still that doesn't fix the final answer which is supposed to be 240
 
Recheck your math for the first KE.

There's a much easier way to solve this if you realize that the work done yields the change in KE, and the work done by a force is just F*d when the force and displacement are aligned.
 
Ok so I used the work energy theorem here is what i got for final velocity:

W=ΔK.E
Fd=1/2mvf^2-1/2mvi^2
(20)(2)=1/2(2)(vf)^2-1/2(2)(14.2)^2... (10√2=14.2 is vi and i got it from phase 1)
solving for vf... vf=15.5 m/s

and final K.E we just substitute vf in K.E equation... K.E=240.25 J

thanks it turned out to be easier than i thought actually.
 
**Mariam** said:
Ok so I used the work energy theorem here is what i got for final velocity:

W=ΔK.E
Fd=1/2mvf^2-1/2mvi^2
(20)(2)=1/2(2)(vf)^2-1/2(2)(14.2)^2... (10√2=14.2 is vi and i got it from phase 1)
solving for vf... vf=15.5 m/s
Even easier: to find the final energy just add up the work done in each phase.

**Mariam** said:
But still that doesn't fix the final answer which is supposed to be 240
That's because you messed up phase 2 of your first approach. Phase 2 has an initial non-zero velocity, which you did not take into account properly.
 

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