Kinetic energy in parabolic coordinates

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The kinetic energy in parabolic coordinates, defined as \(\alpha = r + x\) and \(\beta = r - x\) with \(r = \sqrt{x^2 + y^2}\), is expressed as \(T = \frac{m}{8}(\alpha + \beta)\left(\frac{\dot{\alpha}^2}{\alpha} + \frac{\dot{\beta}^2}{\beta}\right)\). The discussion emphasizes the necessity of converting Cartesian coordinates to parabolic coordinates to derive the kinetic energy formula. Participants noted that understanding the transformation of coordinates is crucial for solving problems in classical mechanics.

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  • Understanding of parabolic coordinates and their definitions
  • Familiarity with kinetic energy expressions in classical mechanics
  • Knowledge of coordinate transformations in physics
  • Basic proficiency in calculus, particularly derivatives
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This discussion is beneficial for undergraduate students in physics, particularly those studying classical mechanics, as well as educators seeking to clarify the application of parabolic coordinates in kinetic energy calculations.

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Homework Statement



Prove that in parabolic coordinates \alpha,\beta the kinetic energy is T=m/8(\alpha+\beta)(\dot\alpha^2/\alpha+\dot\beta^2/\beta)

Homework Equations



Parabolic coordinates are defined as follows: \alpha=r+x, \beta=r-x with r=\sqrt{x^2+y^2}

The Attempt at a Solution



I don't know how to proceed in this situation: in simpler case (spherical or cylindrical coordinates) I write down the three components of velocity using geometrical intuition (e.g. v_\rho=\dot \rho, v_\phi=\rho \dot\phi,v_z=\dot z, because I see they are right...). What if I get only the definition of the new coordinates?
 
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QuArK21343 said:

Homework Statement



Prove that in parabolic coordinates \alpha,\beta the kinetic energy is T=m/8(\alpha+\beta)(\dot\alpha^2/\alpha+\dot\beta^2/\beta)

Homework Equations



Parabolic coordinates are defined as follows: \alpha=r+x, \beta=r-x with r=\sqrt{x^2+y^2}

The Attempt at a Solution



I don't know how to proceed in this situation: in simpler case (spherical or cylindrical coordinates) I write down the three components of velocity using geometrical intuition (e.g. v_\rho=\dot \rho, v_\phi=\rho \dot\phi,v_z=\dot z, because I see they are right...). What if I get only the definition of the new coordinates?

I think the key here is to get x and y in terms of \alpha, \beta. And you hopefully already know how to express the kinetic energy in x, y coordinates, right?
 
That's right! I check explicitly and it works. Now that I have the kinetic energy, it will be doable to write down the equations of motion. Thank you.
 

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