Kinetic energy problem during collision

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The discussion revolves around a kinetic energy problem related to collisions, specifically focusing on elastic collisions and the conservation of energy principles involved during such interactions.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the nature of energy transformation during collisions, questioning how kinetic energy is conserved or transformed into potential energy. There are discussions about the roles of heat and sound in energy storage during collisions.

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Participants are actively engaging with the concepts of kinetic and potential energy during collisions, with some suggesting that energy is stored as elastic potential energy. There is a focus on understanding the conditions under which kinetic energy is minimized and potential energy is maximized, particularly at the point of maximum compression during the collision.

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Some participants express uncertainty about how to calculate the minimum kinetic energy during the collision process, indicating that specific details or formulas may be missing or unclear.

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Hi friends,
I have an issue in solving a Kinetic energy problem during collision.
Please Help me in solving this.
Thank you all in advance.

The problem is as:

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Attempt:

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Friends according to question all the options, (A),(B),(C),(D) are correct. Please try to help me in this.
I will appreciate the help.
 
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As you know, the total energy should be the same at all times. If the KE is going to vary during the collision, where else is energy being stored?
 
haruspex said:
As you know, the total energy should be the same at all times. If the KE is going to vary during the collision, where else is energy being stored?

I think In the terms of heat or sound. But as the question perfectly states that the collision is elastic hence the total K.E. should remains same. And it is happening also before collision and after collision K.E. is 3 J. total.
 
The problem is about the process of collision. The particles are like elastic balls. As the first one reaches the stationary particle, they start to interact and push each other. The balls deform and the deformation goes on till they move with respect to each other. At an instant, they move together with the same velocity, like in an inealastic collision, but the energy is not lost, it is stored as elastic energy, as in a compressed spring. During the second stage of the process, the elastic force between the compressed balls starts to accelerate them away from each other, till the balls completely separate. The PE is maximum when the balls move together with the same velocity.

ehild
 

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ehild said:
The problem is about the process of collision. The particles are like elastic balls. As the first one reaches the stationary particle, they start to interact and push each other. The balls deform and the deformation goes on till they move with respect to each other. At an instant, they move together with the same velocity, like in an inealastic collision, but the energy is not lost, it is stored as elastic energy, as in a compressed spring. During the second stage of the process, the elastic force between the compressed balls starts to accelerate them away from each other, till the balls completely separate. The PE is maximum when the balls move together with the same velocity.

ehild

Well,l it is clear that, during collision some amount of K.E. will be stored as the elastic P.E. in both the balls.
But still how the minimum K.E. can be calculated in this process. It is not clear.
 
The KE is minimum when the PE is maximum, and it is maximum at maximum compression. At that instant, the balls move together, like in an inelastic collision. What is that common velocity? ehild
 
ehild said:
The KE is minimum when the PE is maximum, and it is maximum at maximum compression. At that instant, the balls move together, like in an inelastic collision. What is that common velocity?


ehild

for initial, K.E. = 1/2 mv2 = 3 J
v = √(6/m)

At the instant of collision,

Common velocity will me v/3
i.e. 1/3(√(6/m))
 
And the kinetic energy of the system?

ehild
 
ehild said:
And the kinetic energy of the system?

ehild

Yes it is fulfilling the requirement. Thanks for taking intrust in it. See you around.
 
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You are welcome.

ehild
 

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