Kinetic Energy without External Force

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The discussion revolves around the possibility of a change in kinetic energy occurring without the application of an external force. Participants explore examples such as radioactive decay and explosions to illustrate their points.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants provide examples like radioactive decay and explosions to question how kinetic energy can arise without external forces. There is a discussion about the role of potential energy and the implications of the uncertainty principle.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with various examples being considered. Some participants suggest that potential energy sources may facilitate kinetic energy changes, while others question the definitions of external forces in this context.

Contextual Notes

There is a focus on the definitions of kinetic and potential energy, as well as the conditions under which energy transformations occur. The implications of the second law of thermodynamics are also touched upon.

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Homework Statement


Is is possible to have a change in kinetic energy without providing an external force.


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I want some examples of the above mentioned problem. In radio active decay the alpha particles are coming out from the nucleus with a kinetic energy but we have not given any external force. is this example correct?
 
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KE=(1/2)*m*v^2. The acceleration of a body without an external force is zero. Put the two together. In the example of radioactive decay the particle tunnels out of the nucleus. In this case are you correct is saying that the alpha particle had zero kinetic energy before doing this? (Consider the uncertainty principle).
 
srikanth.isro said:

Homework Statement


Is is possible to have a change in kinetic energy without providing an external force.


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I want some examples of the above mentioned problem. In radio active decay the alpha particles are coming out from the nucleus with a kinetic energy but we have not given any external force. is this example correct?

When a stationary thing explodes?
Initially it does not have kinetic energy, but once its particles started moving in different directions..so net kinetic energy becomes more than 0.

I think you just need to identify a source of potential energy in a system, it is exists then that energy can be converted to kinetic energy
 
mass is a form of potential energy right?
 
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rootX said:
When a stationary thing explodes?
Initially it does not have kinetic energy, but once its particles started moving in different directions..so net kinetic energy becomes more than 0.

I think you just need to identify a source of potential energy in a system, it is exists then that energy can be converted to kinetic energy

Possibly. If you define 'external' other than as its definition in the second law.
 

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