Kinetic Friction of block on table

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving kinetic friction between a block and a table. The scenario includes two blocks with weights w_A and w_B, where block B descends at a constant speed when set into motion. The participants are tasked with calculating the coefficient of kinetic friction and the acceleration of block B when a cat of weight w_A is added to block A.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between forces acting on the blocks, including tension and friction. There is an exploration of applying Newton's second law to analyze the system. Some participants express uncertainty about starting the problem due to the lack of numerical values.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the forces involved and attempting to derive expressions for the coefficient of kinetic friction and acceleration. Some guidance has been offered regarding the importance of analyzing forces and the implications of constant speed. However, there is no explicit consensus on the final expressions or calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem lacks specific numerical values and that the expressions for the coefficient of kinetic friction and acceleration must be derived in terms of the given weights and gravitational acceleration.

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Homework Statement


Consider the system shown in the figure. Block A has weight w_A and block B has weight w_B Once block B is set into downward motion, it descends at a constant speed.

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Calculate the coefficient of kinetic friction between block A and the table top.

A cat, also of weight w_A, falls asleep on top of block A. If block B is now set into downward motion, what is the magnitude of its acceleration?
Express your answer in terms of w_A, w_B and g.


Homework Equations



F=ma
w=ma

The Attempt at a Solution


I know that when the box is sliding at constant speed the kinetic friction is: Fsubk = [tex]\mu[/tex]subk n .


The thing is I don't know where to start, as there are no numbers.

I would know that the block b is gravity pulling down.
 
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ok, I just read that an object is at equilibrium whether at rest or constant velocity.

when the crate moves, the forces would be:

Sum Fx = T - fk =0
Sum Fy = n-w = 0
 
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Do the first part first. (Duh!) Just analyze the forces and apply Newton's 2nd law to each mass separately, as usual. Take advantage of the fact that it moves at constant speed. What does that tell you?
 
Well I edited my previous post,

but I found that fk = T and n=w

using fk = usubkn

uk = fk/n
 
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Heat said:
Express your answer in terms of w_A, w_B and g.
 
so the coefficient is fk/n, for part one?
The "Express your answer in terms of w_a,w_b,g " is for the second question. :)

I just placed fk/n as the answer, and I good feedback saying "The correct answer does not depend on the variables: f_k, n." :(

ok, I got it, indeed with using w as the variable. :)
 
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1.) µK = Wb/Wa


2.) A cat, also of weight w_A, falls asleep on top of block A

a = [Wa*g*(Wb/Wa)] / [2*Wa + Wb ]

since the cat has a weight of A, and the block has Weight A
the above equation needs to be (2*Wa) where Wa is present.
 

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