Kinetic/Potential Energy in Waves

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving kinetic and potential energy in waves, specifically focusing on energy density and its calculation at a given time. The original poster presents a scenario with specific parameters for wave speed, tension, and density, and seeks to understand how to derive kinetic and potential energy from the energy density.

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate energy density and expresses confusion about how to derive kinetic and potential energy from it. Some participants suggest considering the mass and speed of a small element of the wave, while others question the implications of an infinite length for the wave in relation to energy calculations.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem and questioning the assumptions regarding the infinite length of the wave. There is no explicit consensus yet, but guidance on considering mass and speed in small elements has been provided.

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Participants note the challenge of integrating over an infinite length and the implications this has for calculating mean energy density. The original poster's understanding of the question is also under scrutiny, particularly regarding the definitions of kinetic and potential energy in this context.

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Hi,
I'm stuck on some question..
There are given to waves in the following equation:
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The question asks to find the energy density of them, and after it to find the kinetic and the potential energy in t = 2.5 seconds.

V = | 2 | [m/s]
T = 4 [N]
p (density) = 1 [KG/M]

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to find the energy density I used this equation:

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the solution to this equation (that equals to energy density) is:
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then, I've set in place t = 2.5, and the energy density is equal to:
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which is great. but my problem is to find the kinetic and the potential energy in t = 2.5 seconds.
I've not understood this question well.
I can find the TOTAL energy by using integral of the energy density to 'dx'.
How can I find the specific kinetic or potential energy?

Thanks.​
 

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There are probably standard equations, but from first principles...
Consider an element length dx. You know its mass and you know its speed as a function of x and t, etc.
 
Do you mean to Integrate the density to dx?
but I don't know it's length it's infinite.
 
Kosta1234 said:
Do you mean to Integrate the density to dx?
but I don't know it's length it's infinite.
The total energy will be infinite, but you are asked for the mean energy density. What length do you need to encompass to assess that?
 

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