Ladder leaning against the wall, that we dont want to fall down

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The discussion focuses on determining the minimal angle between a ladder and the ground to prevent it from falling when leaning against a wall. Key forces involved include friction between the ladder and the wall (f1) and friction between the ladder and the ground (f2). Participants emphasize the importance of accurately naming the horizontal and vertical components of these forces and balancing them, as well as considering moments about a suitable point to solve the problem effectively.

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problem:

ladder is leaning against the wall.

There is friction between ladder and wall - f1

and there is friction between ladder and ground - f2

what is the minimal angle between ladder and ground that ladder doesn't fall down.
I though it's easy, but then i realized it's not only about force - it's also about "circle motion" (you know what i mean). I don't know hot to solve it.tell me if my description itn's clear so i'll make picture.
 
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Hi hellbike! :wink:

You need to very carefully give names to the horizontal and vertical components of all the forces, and then balance the horizontal and vertical components (separately), and also take moments about some suitable point. :smile:
 

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