Undergrad Landau's inertial frame logic

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The discussion centers on Landau's treatment of the Lagrangian function in the context of inertial frames, specifically focusing on the free particle scenario. It establishes that the Euler-Lagrange equation can be derived without explicitly defining the Lagrangian, provided it is not a function of time-dependent variables. The transformation of the Lagrangian from one inertial frame to another is examined, particularly the substitution of velocity with the time derivative of position, highlighting that this does not alter the equations of motion despite the initial assumption that velocity is independent of time.

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  • Understanding of the Euler-Lagrange equation
  • Familiarity with Lagrangian mechanics
  • Knowledge of inertial frames in classical mechanics
  • Basic concepts of total time derivatives
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I had an interesting thought.

Let's only look at the free particle scenario.

We derive euler lagrange even without the need to know what exactly ##L## is (whether its a function of kinetic energy or not) - deriving EL still can be done. Though, because in the end, we end up with such EL(##\frac{\partial L}{\partial q} - \frac{d}{dt}\frac{\partial L}{\partial \dot q} = 0##), we see that ##L## couldn't have been a function of ##\dot q## which depends on ##t##, because if ##\dot q## depends on ##t##, euler lagrange couldn't be applied to it as EL derivates ##L## wrt to ##\dot q##.

So at this time, we know ##L## is a function of ##v## in which ##v## doesn't depend on ##t##.

Then Landau tries to come up with what ##L## is. in the ##K'## inertial frame, he shows that ##L' = L(v^2) + \frac{dL}{dv^2}2v\epsilon##. Everything is clear till now, but then he changes ##v## into ##\frac{dr}{dt}##. How can he do that if the initial assumption is that ##v## and ##q## are not a function of ##t## in ##L## ? (I know that adding total time derivative doesn't change EOM, but this question is not about this)
 
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I think I figured out the logic in my head.

By that, he doesn't say that ##L'## is a function of ##v, q## which depend on $t$ - he doesn't say this. He just shows that adding total time derivative doesn't change EOM.
 

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