Laplace transform of proper rational function

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The discussion revolves around the Laplace transform of a proper rational function, specifically focusing on the conversion of the function into partial fractions. Participants are examining the steps involved in this process and questioning the validity of certain expressions and assumptions made in the original problem.

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  • Participants are attempting to derive partial fractions for the function but are encountering discrepancies in their results compared to the original solution. Questions are raised about the correctness of the initial steps and the presence of typos in the problem statement.

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The discussion is active, with participants expressing differing opinions on the initial steps of the solution. Some have pointed out potential typos and questioned the reasoning behind certain transformations. There is a focus on clarifying the approach to partial fractions, particularly in cases where the denominator is a square or involves complex roots.

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There is mention of a possible typo in the denominator of the original problem, which may affect the interpretation of the steps taken in the solution. Participants are also noting the frequency of typos in the original poster's previous threads.

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##\frac{2s + 1}{((s - 1)(s - 1)} = \frac{A(s - 1) + B(s - 1)}{(s - 1)(s - 1)}##
For this problem (b),
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The solution is,
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However, I don't understand how they got their partial fractions here (Going from step 1 to 2).

My attempt to convert into partial fractions is:

##\frac{2s + 1}{(s - 1)(s - 1)} = \frac{A(s - 1) + B(s - 1)}{(s - 1)(s - 1)}##

Thus,

##2s + 1 = A(s - 1) + B(s - 1)##
##2s + 1 = (A + B)s - A - B##

##2 = A + B##
##1 = - A - B##
##-1 = A + B##

However, ##2 ≠ -1##

Does someone please know how they got their partial fractions expression in step 2?

Thanks!
 
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I disagree with their first step. ##\frac {2s+1}{s^2-2s+1} = \frac {2s}{(s-1)^2} + \frac{1}{(s-1)^2}##.
I don't know why they are adding 1 to the denominators.
CORRECTION: The text in the OP is a typo and the actual problem has denominator ##s^2-2s+2##. Thanks, @Orodruin .
 
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I disagree with their first step. ##\frac {2s+1}{s^2-2s+1} = \frac {2s}{(s-1)^2} + \frac{1}{(s-1)^2}##.
I don't know why they are adding 1 to the denominators.
Because the actual problem has the denominator ##s^2 - 2s + \color{Red}{2}## … the 1 in the solution’s first expression is a typo.
 
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Apart from that, your partial fraction ansatz is equivalent to assuming
$$
2s + 1 = (A+B)(s-1)
$$
This obviously will not work. You should check how to do partial fractions when the denominator is a square (or higher power). Even if it will not be useful here.
 
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Orodruin said:
is a typo
Typos seem quite overabundant in the solutions of the OP’s threads. If this is the main mode of learning, they may want to consider a different source.
 
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There are no tricky partial fractions involved in this problem. Every step is a simple rearrangement of the fractions.
 
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I mean, you can do partial fractions, but the roots of the denominator are complex and the approach in the solution is much more straightforward.
 
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