Laplace's Equation in Cylindrical Coordinates

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This discussion focuses on solving Laplace's equation in cylindrical coordinates for a long copper pipe, where one half is held at 0V and the other at 9V. The solution involves using separation of variables to express the potential as a product of radial and angular components, specifically R(r) and Φ(φ). The boundary conditions are critical for determining the constants in the solution, which include the requirement that the potential is periodic in φ and the use of Fourier analysis to find the coefficients A_n and B_n. Participants clarify the need to break the problem into two regions: inside and outside the pipe, and emphasize the importance of recognizing the periodic nature of the potential.

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Homework Statement


A long copper pipe, with it's axis on the z axis, is cut in half and the two halves are insulated. One half is held at 0V, the other at 9V. Find the potential everywhere in space.

Homework Equations



\nabla^2V=0

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Alright. This is a laplace's equation problem in two dimensions, since the potential should be independent of z because the pipe is infinite. Using separation of variables( V=R\Phi) the solution to the two dimensional Laplace's EQ in cylindrical coordinates is:

R(r)=ar^k+br^-k

\Phi(\phi)=A\sin(k\phi) + B\cos(k\phi)

w/ V=R(r)\Phi(\phi)I am getting confused when I try to apply boundary conditions to this problem. Here is what I think the boundary conditions should be:

1) V should go to zero as r goes to infinity. (I don't think this is right, since the pipe is infinite, but I am not sure.)

2)V=0 for phi between 0 and pi, r=radius of pipe

3)V=9 for phi between 0 and 2pi, r=radius of pipe.

I can't figure out how to actually use these to eliminate any of the constants. Any help and hints would be greatly appreciated.
 
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First of all you have to break the problem into two regions V_{in} inside the pipe and V_{out} outside the pipe. In order for V to be finite to each region you can eleminate \alpha or \beta in eah region.
The potential V must be periodical for \phi thus you know k.
Lastly you have to use the superposition principle and Fourier analysis for the remaining constants.
 
OK. It seems the part screwing me up is finding k. The potential is periodic in Phi, but it seems more like a step function. I guess I'm saying that I don't understand how can represent that potential as a sine or cosine term, no matter what k happens to be.

Could you elaborate on that part of the problem?
 
Since the potential must be periodic in \phi you must have k\in \mathbb{N}. Thus the solution is

V_{in}(r,\phi)=\frac{A_0}{2}+\sum_{n=1}^\infty r^n\left(A_n\,\cos(n\,\phi)+B_n\,\sin(n\,\phi)\right)

The boundrary conditions read

u(R,\phi)=\left\{\begin{matrix} 0 & 0<\phi<\pi\cr 9 & \pi<\phi<2\,\pi \end{matrix}

The constants A_n,\,B_n can be found by Fourier analysis. Can you do that?
 
Yes, I am fine with Fourier analysis. The boundary condition were just confusing the heck out of me. I don't quite no why either. I guess I just did not recognize that I had to use Fourier anaylsis. Thank you! I think I got it now.
 
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