Lapse rate, dry adiabats, moist adiabats

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The discussion revolves around the concept of lapse rates, specifically comparing moist and dry adiabatic lapse rates in the context of climate change and its effects on Central California. The original poster questions whether the lapse rate would increase or decrease when transitioning from a moist to a dry adiabatic lapse rate.

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  • Participants explore the differences in slopes between moist and dry adiabatic lapse rates and question the definitions and calculations of lapse rate. There is also a focus on clarifying the relationship between temperature change and altitude change.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the definitions and implications of lapse rates, with some participants providing references to external sources for clarification. Multiple interpretations of the lapse rate's behavior are being discussed, but no consensus has been reached regarding the final implications of the transition from moist to dry adiabatic lapse rates.

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Participants note confusion regarding the mathematical representation of lapse rate and its graphical interpretation, indicating a need for clearer definitions and understanding of the concepts involved.

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Homework Statement


With the drying out of Central California with global warming, the lapse rate may change from a moist adiabatic lapse rate to a dry lapse rate. Does this mean the lapse rate would decrease or increase?

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I can see what the difference of the slopes are. I would say that moist adiabat has a higher lapse rate than the dry diabat. Therefore if we go from Moist adiabat to Dry adiabat then the lapse rate would decrease.
 
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Is lapse rate quoted as ##\Delta \theta / \Delta h## or the other way around? Which is Y and which is X on the graph you are looking at?
 
haruspex said:
Is lapse rate quoted as ##\Delta \theta / \Delta h## or the other way around? Which is Y and which is X on the graph you are looking at?
Sorry, do not pay attention to that picture, the lapse rate is change of altitude over the change of temperature.
 
TheMathNoob said:
Right! thank you, so it would increase, In the dry adiabat if we go down for example 5 kilometers then t will raise to x and in the moist adiabat if we go down to 5 then t will just raise to a value that is smaller than x.
Yes.
 

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