Large mass collision momentum problem

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The discussion revolves around the dynamics of collisions between large and small masses, specifically focusing on momentum conservation and the behavior of the masses post-collision. Participants explore the implications of mass differences in elastic collisions and the resulting velocities.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the effects of mass on collision outcomes, questioning why a small mass bounces back while a large mass continues forward. Some explore the role of force during collisions and the implications of conservation laws, while others introduce mathematical equations related to momentum and restitution.

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The discussion is active, with various interpretations of collision mechanics being explored. Some participants have provided mathematical frameworks to support their reasoning, while others have raised questions about the assumptions made regarding kinetic energy and the coefficient of restitution.

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There is an ongoing debate about the conditions of the collisions being considered, particularly whether they are elastic or inelastic, and how this affects the conservation of momentum and energy. Some participants note the importance of the restitution coefficient in their discussions.

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When a large mass collides with a small mass, it is slowed down but continues to move in the same direction. However, when a small mass collides with a large one, it bounces backwards in the opposite direction. why?
I understand that the small mass will have a greater change in velocity due to conservation of momentum etc. But what's to say that the small mass could not just stop, and the big mass start moving, but at a slower speed. :confused:
 
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i think its a question of how much force is acted on the stationary body when collision occures, and what velocity this force can give to it.

when a body with small mass collides with a large mass body it will gain the bigger mass body little velocity then if the collision was between a moving large mass body and a stationary small mass body.

this can also be viewed considering the center of mass, which will continue to move at the same velocity if the collision was elastic, becuae no external forces act on the system.
 
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This can also be explained through mathematical method.

(m1+m2)v1=(m1-m2)u1+2m2u2

(m1+m2)v2=(m2-m1)u2+2m1u1

When a small mass(m1) collides into a very large mass(m2) which is stationary, m1<<m2 and u2=0.
From the equation, v1=-u1 and v2=0.

The two equations above are derived from canservation of momentum and Newton's Law of Restitution.
 
dont want to sound nitpicky, but isn't it conservation of kinetic energy and momentum? you haven't entered here the restitution coefficient, so i guess that means it equals 1, in that case its only conservation of kinetic energy...
 
Well:rolleyes: ...To be exact, I was referring to the two equation below:
m1v1+m2v2=m1u1+m2u2

v1-v2=u2-u1

This is only for elastics collision. Since only elastics collision is considered, the coefficient of restitution is 1, as you have said.:smile:
 
when a small mass collides with a large one, it bounces backwards in the opposite direction.

This only happens with 'elastic' collision. On a way bigger scale, its the reason a basketball bounces off the earth. When the two collide, they compress together. Then they re-expand. The big one will move a bit, but the small one will really go.
 

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