Latent heat of vaporization Water thermodynamic

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the latent heat of vaporization (LHV) of water and its relationship with pressure. Participants explore how variations in pressure affect the LHV and the implications for calculating the heat required to vaporize water in a closed system.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the latent heat of vaporization of water is related to the initial pressure of the water.
  • Another participant suggests that LHV decreases with increasing pressure, referencing Ufg and Hfg.
  • A third participant proposes using the first law of thermodynamics and numerical methods to solve related problems, particularly in industrial contexts.
  • There is a request for clarification on what is meant by "initial" pressure, indicating a need for better visualization of the system described.
  • One participant asserts that in a closed system being heated, the pressure remains constant during vaporization, suggesting that LHV is constant for a given pressure.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between pressure and LHV, with some asserting a connection and others questioning the assumptions about pressure stability in a closed system. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these differing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the system's configuration (open vs. closed) and the implications of pressure changes on LHV during the heating process.

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Latent heat of vaporization "Water" thermodynamic

-first of all I want to know if the "latent heat of vaporiasation " of water is related to the initial pressure of water ?

-If LHV of water is variable with the variation of pressure , how can we calculate the heat needed to vaporise a certain mass of water inside a container , cause as we know while heating the container and water start to evaporate the pressure inside the container will increase gradually , so the heat needed to complete the vaporisation must be increased cause the LHV has changed with the change of pressure inside the container , please help
 
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You should look up "steam table" as a beginning. This stuff is quite well-understood, since it was the foundation for much of the industrial revolution.
 


Yes, Ufg (and Hfg) decrease with increasing P.

You can solve the problem simply applying the first law of thermo. Easiest way IMHO is to apply numerical methods using a computerized data base. This same type of problem comes up quite a bit in the industrical gas business for cryogenic liquids.
 


firavia said:
-first of all I want to know if the "latent heat of vaporiasation " of water is related to the initial pressure of water ?

-If LHV of water is variable with the variation of pressure , how can we calculate the heat needed to vaporise a certain mass of water inside a container , cause as we know while heating the container and water start to evaporate the pressure inside the container will increase gradually , so the heat needed to complete the vaporisation must be increased cause the LHV has changed with the change of pressure inside the container , please help

What do you mean by "initial" pressure of water?

I am having trouble in visualizing the system you described. If its a closed system & is being heated, pressure in the container remains same while vaporization, and LHV is constant for a pressure.
 

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