Launching a rocket from high altitude

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the challenges and considerations of launching a rocket from a high altitude weather balloon, specifically focusing on the ignition of the rocket engine at altitudes around 70 km or higher. The participants explore potential solutions to ensure successful ignition despite low oxygen levels.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about the igniter's ability to function at high altitudes due to low oxygen levels and inquires about possible solutions, including the idea of creating a combustion chamber.
  • Another participant suggests that if the rocket uses solid fuel, incorporating the rocket fuel compound into the igniter could mitigate ignition issues, as sufficient energy from a spark or heat should suffice.
  • A follow-up question seeks clarification on how to integrate the fuel compound into the igniter.
  • Further responses propose embedding a high resistance wire coil into the fuel compound or at the exhaust nozzle to facilitate ignition.
  • There is a confirmation that embedding the igniter coil directly into the solid fuel engine near the exhaust nozzle is a viable approach.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the potential effectiveness of using solid fuel and integrating the igniter with the fuel compound, but there is ongoing exploration of the best methods to achieve this.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the specific technical details of the ignition process or the design of the combustion chamber, leaving some assumptions and dependencies on definitions unaddressed.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in rocketry, high-altitude launches, and ignition systems may find this discussion relevant.

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I have a project where I will be launching a rocket from a high altitude weather balloon. I am planning on launching the rocket at around 70Km or even higher. My main concern is the igniter not being able to ignite the engine because of the low amount of oxygen. Is there any way around this? Possible to make like a combustion chamber for the engine?
 
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If this is a solid fuel rocket then use the rocket fuel compound as a part of the igniter and there should not be a problem because the sufficient energy from a spark or heat from a wire coil is all that should be required.
 
JBA said:
If this is a solid fuel rocket then use the rocket fuel compound as a part of the igniter and there should not be a problem because the sufficient energy from a spark or heat from a wire coil is all that should be required.
How would I integrate this into the igniter?
 
For example, use a small high resistance wire coil embedded into a small molded slug of the fuel compound or the bottom of the solid fuel at the exhaust nozzle.
 
JBA said:
For example, use a small high resistance wire coil embedded into a small molded slug of the fuel compound or the bottom of the solid fuel at the exhaust nozzle.
So basically embed the igniter coil directly into the engine of solid based fuel closest to the exhaust nozzle?
 
Yes
 

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