LCC 205 8.4.7 sine substitution (definite integral)

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The discussion revolves around the evaluation of a definite integral using sine substitution, specifically focusing on the integral $\int_0^{5/2} \frac{1}{\sqrt{25-x^2}}\ dx$. Participants explore the correct setup for the substitution, the limits of integration, and the implications of their calculations.

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  • Homework-related
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the integral and proposes a sine substitution, expressing uncertainty about the setup.
  • Another participant suggests that the limits of integration need to be adjusted to reflect the substitution.
  • A subsequent post calculates the new limits of integration based on the sine substitution, but does not clarify if these limits are correct.
  • Another participant points out a potential error in the calculation of the sine values for the limits and asks for clarification on the correct limits.
  • There is a discussion about the implications of the inverse sine function applied to the limits of integration, leading to a simplified expression for the integral.
  • One participant confirms that the final answer is $\frac{\pi}{6}$, expressing satisfaction with the resolution of their confusion.
  • Another participant expresses gratitude for the assistance received throughout the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the final result of the integral being $\frac{\pi}{6}$, but there is some uncertainty regarding the correct limits of integration and the implications of the sine substitution process.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved aspects regarding the correctness of the limits of integration and the implications of the sine substitution, as well as the handling of the inverse sine function.

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$\tiny{LCC \ \ 205 \ \ \ 8.4.7 \ \ sine \ \ substitution }$

$\displaystyle
I=\int_0^{5/2} \frac{1}{\sqrt{25-x^2}}\ dx
=\frac{\pi}{6}
$

$$\displaystyle
x=5\sin\left({u}\right) \ \ \ dx=5\cos\left({u}\right) \ \ du
$$
$$\displaystyle
I=\int_0^{5/2}
\frac{1}{\sqrt{25-25 \sin^2 \left({u}\right)}}
\ \ 5\cos\left({u}\right)
\ du $$
Not sure if this setup is right
 
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You are using a good substitution, but you need to change your limits of integration in accordance with your substitution, so that you have $u$-values there instead of $x$. :)
 
$\tiny{LCC \ \ 205 \ \ \ 8.4.7 \ \ sine \ \ substitution }$
So if
$\displaystyle 0=5\sin\left({a}\right) \ \ \ a=\pi$

$\displaystyle \frac{5}{2}=5\sin\left({b}\right)\ \ \ b=\frac{7\pi}{6}$
Then

$$\displaystyle
I=\int_a^b
\frac{5\cos\left({u}\right)}{\sqrt{25-25 \sin^2 \left({u}\right)}}
\ \ du
\implies \int_a^b
\frac{5\cos\left({u}\right)}{5\sqrt{1- \sin^2 \left({u}\right)}}
\ \ du
\implies \int_a^b 1 \ \ du
$$

$I=\left[u\right]_a^b
= \frac{7\pi}{6}-\frac{6\pi}{6}
=\frac{\pi}{6}$
Hopefully 🐮🐮🐮🐮
 
Note that:

$$\sin\left(\frac{7\pi}{6}\right)=-\frac{1}{2}$$

You have:

$$u(x)=\arcsin\left(\frac{x}{5}\right)$$

Now, observe that:

$$0\le x\le\frac{5}{2}$$

Hence:

$$0\le \frac{x}{5}\le\frac{1}{2}$$

Can you now get the correct limits of integration?
 
How would that be in terms of u?

$\frac{\pi}{6}$

Is the correct answer😯
 
If we take the inverse sine of each value in the compound inequality, we get:

$$\arcsin(0)\le \arcsin\left(\frac{x}{5}\right)\le\arcsin\left(\frac{1}{2}\right)$$

Now simplify...:)
 
MarkFL said:
If we take the inverse sine of each value in the compound inequality, we get:

$$\arcsin(0)\le \arcsin\left(\frac{x}{5}\right)\le\arcsin\left(\frac{1}{2}\right)$$
$$0\le\arcsin\left({\frac{x}{5}}\right)\le \frac{\pi}{6}$$
Why would this help
 
karush said:
$$0\le\arcsin\left({\frac{x}{5}}\right)\le \frac{\pi}{6}$$
Why would this help

Because:

$$u(x)=\arcsin\left({\frac{x}{5}}\right)$$

And so we have:

$$0\le u\le\frac{\pi}{6}$$

And the integral then becomes:

$$I=\int_0^{\frac{\pi}{6}}\,du=\frac{\pi}{6}$$
 
OK got it🐮
Thanks for not giving up on me
The help here is awesome

🍸🍸🍸🍸🍸🍸🍸🍸🍸🍸
 

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