Learn Automotive Systems: Find the Best Book to Read

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around identifying suitable books and resources for learning about mechanical science as it applies to automotive systems. Participants explore various literature options, including magazines and textbooks, while addressing the broad nature of mechanical science in automotive engineering.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks recommendations for books on mechanical science related to cars.
  • Another suggests that Car Craft and Hot Rod magazines contain valuable technical articles from earlier decades, which may provide practical insights.
  • Milliken's Race Car Dynamics is mentioned as a key reference for vehicle dynamics.
  • Robert Bosch's Automotive Handbook is noted as a comprehensive resource covering various automotive systems, though it may lack depth in scientific theory.
  • There is a discussion about the scientific principles behind automotive systems, such as suspension mechanics and airflow dynamics.
  • Participants highlight the complexity of automotive engineering, which encompasses various scientific disciplines, including mechanics, aerodynamics, and material science.
  • Some participants clarify the nature of automotive engineering degrees, suggesting they are similar to mechanical engineering degrees with additional automotive-focused courses.
  • A participant acknowledges a previous miscommunication regarding the existence of automotive engineering as a distinct field.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the resources available for learning about automotive systems, with no consensus on a single recommended book. There is also a recognition of the diverse scientific disciplines involved in automotive engineering, indicating a shared understanding of its complexity.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects varying levels of specificity regarding the types of knowledge and resources available, as well as differing perspectives on the structure of automotive engineering education.

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I don't know if this belongs in this forum or elsewhere, but i'll ask anyway...

Anyone here knows a good book to read to learn on mechanical science (Applied to cars!)?
 
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I don't know of a specific book, but Car Craft and Hot Rod magazines feature tech articles and advice columns that can actually teach you a lot. Try to find some back issues, especially from the '70's and early '80's when it was more pure mechanics without all of the computer crap. They even give formulae for things like airflow through the engine or acceleration rates.
 
Milliken's Race Car Dynamics is the benchmark in terms of vehicle dynamics.

Mechanical science is extremely broad, and is applied in some way or another to every single aspect of car design. If you want to be more specific, there are more specific references to be found.

Robert Bosch's Automotive Handbook is an excellent all-rounder, and covers the fundamentals of most mechanical, electrical and hydaulic systems found on most modern cars, but lacks really in depth fundamental scientific explanation and theory.
 
It`s exactly the scientific explanation and theory behind cars, such as how do suspensions work, or how does the airflow around a car... "flows".
 
As Brewnog pointed out, there is no one science of automotive engineering. Suspension design involves things like spring rates, damping functions, material fatigue, hydraulics (for shock absorbers and 'active' suspensions), etc..
Body design involves not only aesthetics, but also aerodynamics and ergonomics. Driveline components require knowledge of gearing, friction, material strength and so on.
And that's just the tip of the iceberg.
 
We do have automotive engineering degrees now. I can't really tell you how different they are from regular ME courses though. I am assuming that the same overall class structure is followed but with applications from automotive applications only.
 
Our automotive engineering degrees are just mechanical engineering degrees with one or two extra automotive systems courses, and occasionally some sponsorship from a car manufacturer. Even the aerospace stuff is still in there, just turned upside down!
 
There you go. I figured you would know that.
 
Poor choice of words on my part. I didn't mean to imply that there's no science called automotive engineering; rather that there are many different types of science involved in it. Sorry for the confusion.
 

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