Learning C++: Challenges to Test Your Skills

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The discussion revolves around challenges faced while learning C++, with a focus on finding resources and problems to practice programming skills. Participants share their experiences with various programming concepts such as functions, classes, and pointers, while also suggesting websites and projects for further learning.

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  • One participant expresses a desire for challenging problems to test their C++ skills, having a background in Qbasic.
  • Another participant inquires about the original poster's experience with classes and pointers, indicating these are important concepts in C++.
  • Several participants provide links to resources, including books and websites, that may help with learning C++ and practicing programming skills.
  • A participant introduces the Monty Hall problem as a potential project for the original poster, suggesting it could be simulated in C++.
  • There is a discussion about the importance of understanding programming principles over just learning syntax, with differing opinions on the best programming languages for mathematical problems.
  • Some participants share their thoughts on the challenges of translating problems from natural language to programming logic, particularly in relation to probability problems.

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Participants generally agree on the importance of practicing programming skills and understanding fundamental concepts. However, there are differing opinions on the relevance of specific programming projects and the best programming languages for learning.

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Some participants express uncertainty about the educational value of certain programming projects, particularly those involving probability problems, indicating that the learning outcomes may vary based on prior knowledge and experience.

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Individuals learning C++ or those interested in programming challenges, particularly in the context of mathematical and logical problem-solving.

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I am learning c++ at what I would consider a fast rate. Having took Qbasic years ago everything came into place pretty quick but I'm slowing down in the functions part. I am picking it up though. I know variables, calculations, arrays, logic, and loops.

What I am looking for is a website with a bunch of good problems to test my skill and get me going. Reading it and making crappy examples from my head doesn't do justice to good hard problems.

thanks.
 
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have you worked with classes?
 
I'm going off of the C++ for dummies book and also some stuff of the internet if i can find it. This book shows classes on chapter 21 while I'm on chapter 6-7.
 
okie dokie, that can wait. Have you studied pointers?
 
That would be chapter 8 which is next. If you have any stuff with pointers in it just post them. I'm sure in 2-3 days I will have arrays and functions down and be able to move on.

Thanks
 
http://mindview.net/Books/TICPP/ThinkingInCPP2e.html
 
Have you heard of the http://www.cs.uwaterloo.ca/~alopez-o/math-faq/mathtext/node32.html" ?

"A TV host shows you three numbered doors (all three equally likely), one hiding a car and the other two hiding goats. You get to pick a door, winning whatever is behind it. Regardless of the door you choose, the host, who knows where the car is, then opens one of the other two doors to reveal a goat, and invites you to switch your choice if you so wish. Does switching increases your chances of winning the car?"


If you want a little project, you could write a simulation.
 
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You could also take a look at this site from my school:
http://www.math.ucla.edu/~wittman/10a.1.07w

There are homework assignments with solutions and practice exams there.

(I think this guy really, really likes Lord of the Rings!):-p
 
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Math Is Hard said:
Have you heard of the http://www.cs.uwaterloo.ca/~alopez-o/math-faq/mathtext/node32.html" ?

"A TV host shows you three numbered doors (all three equally likely), one hiding a car and the other two hiding goats. You get to pick a door, winning whatever is behind it. Regardless of the door you choose, the host, who knows where the car is, then opens one of the other two doors to reveal a goat, and invites you to switch your choice if you so wish. Does switching increases your chances of winning the car?"

If you want a little project, you could write a simulation.

I have no idea what can OP learn from writting the program in c++ for these sorts of a problemS (perhaps nothing except playing with words is far from being conditional probability) but here is the equivalent problem considering a coin tossing I saw recently:
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A box contains two coins.
One coin is heads on both sides and the other is heads on one side and tails on the other.One coin is selected from the box at random and the face of one side is observed.If the face is heads what is the probability that the other side is also heads?

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To OP:Learning the syntax is the last thing good programmer should be concerned with.Most of the things what you can do in Basic,Fortran or Pascal you can do also in c.Depending on type of the problem you are dealing with ,written code may be just longer or shorter[*].IMO,dynamic programming side is the most important thing by far.

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Example for [*]:http://math.scu.edu/~dsmolars/ma61/notesrev.html
And if you want some good problems that aren't trivial just say.I can invent them for you :smile:
 
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tehno said:
I have no idea what can OP learn from writting the program in c++ for these sorts of a problemS (perhaps nothing except playing with words is far from being conditional probability)

It's just a little project that could be done without things the OP has not studied yet. I think it would be fun (but hey, that's just me). Variations of the Monty Hall problem are sometimes discussed at PF: https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=138952
 
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Math Is Hard said:
It's just a little project that could be done without things the OP has not studied yet. I think it would be fun (but hey, that's just me).
He mentioned Qbasic and I assumed he wasn't a complete newby to programming .I wanted to stress some general principles of programming are more important than realization of code by concrete syntax of a language.That's my experience.IMHO,c++ is great for starters ,but I prefer UCSD Pascal and Turbo Pascal for mathematically loaded problems (it's not just matter of taste).
Math Is Hard said:
I think it would be fun (but hey, that's just me).
What r u talking about? I estimate you a smart blonde Hardy.:smile:
Thank you for the link.Didn't know that was discussed on PF before.
It illustrates how translatations of problems from common language to the ˝language˝ of simple Bayes formula for a conditional probability can be troublesome sometimes.
I gave the the tossing coins variant which in theory of probability represents, most likely, one of the most classical and widely studyed setups ,but still can confuse people. :biggrin:
And when one gives example with goats,doors and cars , people just get completely lost :wink:

EDIT: Not a notewothy comment but maybe a concidence :
http://free-zg.htnet.hr/jsribar/en/
This the best book I've seen about c++ ,among many foreign books...
Unfortunately ,I only have the Croatian version.
 
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tehno said:
What r u talking about? I estimate you a smart blonde Hardy.:smile:
Thank you:smile: I'm grateful to have the brilliant ones like you to look up to for advice. Keep on doing what you do, and helping us newbies to C++ out.
 
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