MHB Learning Texas Instruments Calculator

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The discussion centers around the challenges of transitioning from a Classpad calculator to a TI-83 Plus for exam preparation. The user seeks guidance on performing two key tasks: obtaining exact answers in terms of π and differentiating or integrating functions without specifying a value for x. Responses clarify that the TI-83 Plus cannot perform symbolic differentiation or indefinite integration, which limits its functionality compared to the Classpad. A suggestion is made to consider the TI-89 Titanium, which can handle these operations, providing symbolic answers and working with π. The conversation highlights the frustration with the TI-83 Plus's limitations and the importance of selecting the right calculator for advanced mathematical tasks.
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I am used to Classpad but have to quickly train myself up to use TI for exam requirements.

I can't work out how to do 2 bread and butter things:

1. get an answer in exact form, ie: $$\frac{\pi}{2}+\frac{\pi}{2}=\pi$$ and,
2. how to differentiate $$x^2\ or\ 2x^3+3x$$ without having to stipulate a value for $x$; ie: simply to get the first derivative of an f(x); conversely, how to do this for integration without stipulating a domain, in other words, how to calculate an indefinite integral

(I've read, and am reading again, the appropriate parts of the manual, honest!)

Thanks,
D'abs

(Perhaps this should go in Calculus, huh?)
 
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Re: Learning Texas Calculator

I have a TI-89 Titanium, so unfortunately I will have to let someone with the TI-83 Plus address your questions, to ensure you get the best instructions.
 
Re: Learning Texas Calculator

Hi DeusAbscondus,

The reason why you can't figure out how to do either of these things is because the TI-83+ can't do them. :( It can only do definite integration and although it's wonderful with fractions, it won't output things in terms of $\pi$. If you think that the final answer should be in terms of $\pi$ you can try the following. Let's say your calculator outputs $x$ and you think that this is some multiple of $\pi$. Take [math]\frac{x}{\pi}[/math] and see what you get, and let's call that $y$. The answer is also $y \pi$.

Jameson
 
Re: Learning Texas calculator

MarkFL said:
Probably the best forum is:
Mathematics Software and Calculator Discussion


What TI model do you have?
Thanks Mark and Jameson;
well that is annoying, especially as I have cut my teeth on a classpad which does both!

it seems a silly restriction, but i guess they have to have an agreed benchmark so that every student has access to exactly the same funtionality

Thanks for clearing up that mystery Jameson;
no less for the practical tip!
Cheers,
D'abs
 
Re: Learning Texas Calculator

Don't know if you have the option, but if you're up for a bit of a learning curve, the http://www.mathhelpboards.com/f29/hp-50g-1953/is an amazing calculator. It can do all that stuff (symbolic differentiation and integration), as well as utilize the Reverse Polish Notation with stack, particularly useful for evaluating intermediate results on the fly.
 
Re: Learning Texas Calculator

Ackbach said:
Don't know if you have the option, but if you're up for a bit of a learning curve, the http://www.mathhelpboards.com/f29/hp-50g-1953/is an amazing calculator. It can do all that stuff (symbolic differentiation and integration), as well as utilize the Reverse Polish Notation with stack, particularly useful for evaluating intermediate results on the fly.
Thanks Ackbach,
I'll check it with my instructress, though I think the guidelines come down to this:
"Get yourself a Texas, boy, or don't show!"
 
Re: Learning Texas Calculator

The TI-89 Titanium will do the things you asked about in the original post. It will compute derivatives and integrals symbolically, and output answers in terms of pi.
 
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