Least Upper Bound Property ⇒ Archimedean Principle

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The discussion establishes that the Least Upper Bound Property (l.u.b.) is equivalent to the Archimedean Principle (AP) within the context of a totally ordered field, denoted as ##\mathbb{F}##. The proof demonstrates that if ##\mathbb{F}## lacks the AP, it cannot possess the l.u.b. property, as shown through a contradiction involving upper bounds. The discussion also extends the proof to non-Archimedean linearly-ordered groups, illustrating that such groups similarly do not satisfy the l.u.b. property.

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  • Understanding of totally ordered fields
  • Familiarity with the concepts of Least Upper Bound Property (l.u.b.)
  • Knowledge of the Archimedean Principle (AP)
  • Basic principles of abstract algebra and ordered groups
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Mathematicians, particularly those specializing in abstract algebra, real analysis, and order theory, will benefit from this discussion. It is also relevant for students studying advanced mathematical concepts related to ordered fields and their properties.

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Hello! I was wondering if this proof was correct? Thanks in advance!

Given: A totally ordered field, ##\mathbb{F}##.
Claim: Least Upper Bound Property (l.u.b.) ⇒ Archimedean Principle (AP)

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Proof. I will show that the contrapositive is true; that is, if ##\mathbb{F}## does not have the AP, it does not satisfy l.u.b.

By assumption, ##\mathbb{F}## has some element S such that for each ##n \in \mathbb{N}, n < S## (that is, it does not satisfy AP). It follows from the totally ordered field axioms that ##kS^{-1} < k/n## for all ##n, k \in \mathbb{N}##. The set ##\{S^{-1},2S^{-1},3S^{-1},4S^{-1},\cdots\}## is then bounded from above (setting ##n=k## shows that ##kS^{-1}## is always less than ##1##) but does not have an upper bound in ##\mathbb{F}##.

Suppose that it does have a least upper bound ##l \in \mathbb{F}##, and so for any two upper bounds ##l, l’ \in \mathbb{F}, l≤l’##. Then ##l## must hold to the inequality ##kS^{-1} < l## for all ##k## (otherwise, ##l## wouldn’t be an upper bound for ##S##). But then ##2kS^{-1}< l ## implies that ##kS^{-1}< l/2 < l##, and ##l/2## is a smaller upper bound for ##S##, contrary to ##l## being the least upper bound. This means that our supposition that ##S## has an upper bound is false, and the l.u.b. does not hold for ##\mathbb{F}##. □

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Definitions and Notes:

l.u.b. holds for ##\mathbb{F}## iff every non-empty set ##S \in \mathbb{F}## that is bounded from above has a least upper bound.

AP holds iff for any element ##s \in \mathbb{F}## there exists an ##n \in \mathbb{N}## such that ##s ≤ n.##

1 is the addition identify element for field addition, and multiplication by natural numbers is shorthand for repeated field addition. E.g., ##2S^{-1} = S^{-1} + S^{-1}##, and ##kS^{-1} = S^{-1} + S^{-1} + ... S^{-1}##, k times. If a natural number ##n## is used as an element of ##\mathbb{F}##, it is assumed to be repeated addition of the identity element n times.
 
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This post got moved to abstract algebra (I was thinking of ##\mathbb{F}## as a generalization of the real numbers), and so I realize now that I could have just proven that any linearly-ordered group ##\mathbb{G}## that is not Archimedean does not have the least upper bound property. It can be done similarly but more concisely:

If ##G## is non-Archimedean linearly-ordered group, then there exists some ##g, h \in G## such that ##g^n < h## for all ##n \in \mathbb{N}##. This means that the set ##H=\{g^n : n \in \mathbb{N}\}## is both non-empty and bounded by ##h##.

Now suppose ##H## has a least upperbound ##l \in G##. As a upper bound, ##g^{n+1}<l## for all ##n## (since ##n## is arbitrary). But this means that ##g^n < g^{-1}l < l##, and ##g^{-1}l## is a lower least upper bound for ##H##, which is a contradiction. Therefore, if ##G## is a non-Archimedean linearly-ordered group, it does not satisfy the least upper bound property. □
 

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