Least Upper Bounds: Find, Exist & Belong to Set

[elizaburlap]

Homework Statement

Find the least upper bound and greatest lower bound (if they exist) of the following sets and state whether they belong to the set:

a. {1/n:n$\in$"Natural Number"}
b. {x$\in$"Rational Number":0≤x≤√5
c. {x irrational:√2≤x2}
d. {(1/n)+(-1)ⁿ:n$\in$"Natural Number"}

Homework Equations

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The Attempt at a Solution

a. least upper bound does not exist; greatest lower bound is 1 and does belong to the set
b. least upper bound is √5 and does not belong to the set; greatest lower bound is 0 and does belong to the set.
c. least upper bound is 2 and does not belong to the set; greatest lower bound is √2 and does belong to the set.
d. I am not sure about this one, I don't know what the graph would look like.

Am I getting the right idea here? Any ideas for d.?

Thanks!

 

[radou]

For a. Is 1 <= x, for all x in your set? Revise the definitions of "greatest lower bound", i.e. "infimum".

 

[elizaburlap]

Well, I thought it was, because x has to be a natural number.

 

[radou]

Well, I thought it was, because x has to be a natural number.

Unless I'm missing something, n has to be a natural number. Numbers of the form 1/n, where n is natural, are rational numbers.

 

[HallsofIvy]

Well, I thought it was, because x has to be a natural number.

? There is NO mention of an "x" in problem (a). There is mention of a natural number, n, and the problem talks about the number 1/n for each n:
if n= 1, 1/n= 1
if n= 2, 1/n= 1/2
if n= 3, 1/n= 1/3
if n= 4, 1/n= 1/4
...

I strongly recommend that you write out at least a few of the numbers in each problem.

 

[elizaburlap]

This is why I thought that the greatest lower bound was one.

Because n=1, 1/n=1.
as far as I know n cannot be smaller than one as a natural number. Doesn't this make 1 the greatest lower bound??

 

[LCKurtz]

This is why I thought that the greatest lower bound was one.

Because n=1, 1/n=1.
as far as I know n cannot be smaller than one as a natural number. Doesn't this make 1 the greatest lower bound??

As Halls mentioned, $S = \{1,1/2,1/3,\, ...\}$. Plot a few of those points on the $x$ axis. Then remember that a greatest lower bound of a set is at least a lower bound. Then ask yourself if 1 is a lower bound for $S$.

 

[elizaburlap]

Okay! Thanks!

 

[LCKurtz]

As Halls mentioned, $S = \{1,1/2,1/3,\, ...\}$. Plot a few of those points on the $x$ axis. Then remember that a greatest lower bound of a set is at least a lower bound. Then ask yourself if 1 is a lower bound for $S$.

Okay! Thanks!

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