Leaving Academia for Industry: Is a PhD Necessary?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the decision of whether to pursue a PhD while considering a transition from academia to industry. Participants explore the implications of continuing with a PhD program in the context of personal dissatisfaction with academic life and the relevance of their research to industry.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Meta-discussion

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses frustration with the academic lifestyle and questions the value of completing a PhD given their desire to move to industry.
  • Another participant suggests that if the individual is certain about disliking academia, it may not be worthwhile to continue with the PhD, emphasizing the importance of making decisions based on personal satisfaction rather than external pressures.
  • There is a concern about the potential for restructuring current responsibilities to better accommodate graduate duties, though this remains speculative.
  • A later reply indicates ongoing dissatisfaction and a timeline from an advisor suggesting that the PhD may not be completed until several years later, reinforcing the desire to leave academia.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether pursuing the PhD is advisable. There are competing views on the value of staying in academia versus transitioning to industry, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the best course of action.

Contextual Notes

Participants express personal feelings of dissatisfaction and uncertainty about their academic paths, which may influence their decision-making processes. The discussion reflects varying perspectives on the relevance of a PhD in relation to industry careers.

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I have a job as a RA in applied maths, and in about 1 year will have a couple of publications with good/high industrial relevance. I'm currently enrolled as a PhD student as well, but haven't accomplished any of my graduate duties. I'm very annoyed with the academic lifestyle and want to move to industry afterwards, so I wonder whether I should eventually get the PhD or not. I expect that dissertation&courses will take 1+ years in addition to my actual research, is it worth the bill?

PS Forgot to say that I already have a M.Sc. from another university.
 
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topcomer said:
I expect that dissertation&courses will take 1+ years in addition to my actual research, is it worth the bill?
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It sounds to me like you want to give it up and go take a job in industry. If you're sure you dislike the academic lifestyle, then there perhaps isn't much point in continuing on with it - why stick in an unhappy situation when you have the freedom to leave? You can always apply for jobs and if you get one, take it. Otherwise, there are always difficult times in a PhD. Make sure you aren't just having a particularly low point - and make your decision about the PhD work itself, not the fact that you haven't been able to carry any out. Is it possible to restructure the things that you're doing so you can focus more on your graduate duties? Would you want to do it if it were?
 
fasterthanjoao said:
It sounds to me like you want to give it up and go take a job in industry. If you're sure you dislike the academic lifestyle, then there perhaps isn't much point in continuing on with it - why stick in an unhappy situation when you have the freedom to leave? You can always apply for jobs and if you get one, take it. Otherwise, there are always difficult times in a PhD. Make sure you aren't just having a particularly low point - and make your decision about the PhD work itself, not the fact that you haven't been able to carry any out. Is it possible to restructure the things that you're doing so you can focus more on your graduate duties? Would you want to do it if it were?

Thanks, a very good suggestion indeed. I'll wait until I'm done with the publications I'm preparing, then see if I still want to leave my current position. Maybe it's as you said, I'm realizing that our research is becoming old fashioned before being published and feel a little depressed at the moment..
 
3 months have passed and nothing has changed.. still want to leave. also because, according to my advisor, my PhD won't be over before 2012-3..
 

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