Lebesgue Measurable but not Borel sets.

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This discussion focuses on the construction of Lebesgue measurable sets that are not Borel sets. Key points include the fact that every set of outer measure zero is measurable, and that subsets of the Cantor set are also measurable, leading to the conclusion that there exist Lebesgue measurable sets that are not Borel due to the difference in cardinalities between the two sets. The process of generating Fσ and Gδ sets is discussed, confirming that only 2^{\aleph_0} Borel sets exist. An explicit construction of a non-Borel Lebesgue set is referenced, providing a practical example.

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Hi, All:

I am trying to find a construction of a measurable subset that is not Borel, and ask

for a ref. in this argument ( see the ***) used to show the existence of such sets:

i) Every set of outer measure 0 is measurable, since:

0=m* (S)≥m*(S) , forcing equality.

ii) Every subset of the Cantor set is measurable, by i), and there are 2c=22Aleph_0 such subsets.

iii)*** The process of producing the Fσ , Gδ , Fσδ ,...

produces only 2Aleph_0 sets. ***

iv) Since the 2 cardinalities are different, there must be a set as described in ii), i.e., a Lebesgue-measurable set that is not Borel.

So, questions:

1)How do we show the process in iii) produces only c sets.

2)Anyone know of an actual construction of this set?

Thanks.
 
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This is a bit complicated.
For (i), you are basically asking why there are only 2^{\aleph_0} Borel sets. This is proved in a lot of axiomatic set theory books.

Let me type up the basic idea. You can always ask for more details if you want. Define

\mathcal{A}_1=\{B\subseteq \mathbb{R}~\vert~\text{B is open}\}

If \alpha is an ordinal and if \mathcal{A}_\alpha is defined, then define \mathcal{A}_{\alpha+1} such that
  • If A\in \mathcal{A}_\alpha, then \mathbb{R}\setminus A\in \mathcal{A}_{\alpha+1}.
  • If A_n\in \mathcal{A}_\alpha for n\in \mathbb{N}, then \bigcup_n{A_n}\in \mathcal{A}_{\alpha+1}

If \gamma is a limit ordinal, and A_\alpha is defined for \alpha<\gamma, then define
\mathcal{A}_\gamma=\bigcup_\alpha \mathcal{A}_{\alpha}

It is clear that if \mathcal{B} are the Borel sets, then each \mathcal{A}_\alpha is a subset of \mathcal{B}.

It can easily be proven by transfinite induction that each \mathcal{A}_\alpha with \alpha\leq \omega_1 has only 2^{\aleph_0} sets.

We now show that \mathcal{A}_{\omega_1}=\mathcal{B}. For this, it suffices to show that \mathcal{A}_{\omega_1} is a sigma-algebra containing the open sets. This is not hard to show. Let me show, for example that if A_n\in \mathcal{A}_{\omega_1} for n\in \mathbb{N}, then \bigcup_n{A_n}\in \mathcal{A}_{\omega_1}.

Indeed, if A_n\in \mathcal{A}_{\omega_1}, then there exists an ordinal \alpha_n<\omega_1 such that A_n\in \mathcal{A}_{\alpha_n}. Let \alpha=\sup_n \alpha_n. Since each \alpha_n is countable, it follows that \alpha (as a union of the \alpha_n) is countable as well. So \alpha<\omega_1.
Now, since A_n\in \mathcal{A}_{\alpha_n}\subseteq \mathcal{A}_\alpha for each n, it follows by definition that \bigcup_n A_n \in \mathcal{A}_{\alpha+1}. But since \alpha<\omega_1, we also know that \alpha+1<\omega_1. So we deduce that \bigcup_n A_n\in \mathcal{A}_{\alpha+1}\subseteq \mathcal{A}_{\omega_1}.

For (ii), there is this explicit construction of a non-Borel Lebesgue set: http://planetmath.org/ALebesgueMeasurableButNonBorelSet.html
 
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I see; it's been a while since I saw this. Thanks.
 
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Hope it is not too OT, but I wonder if you have a ref. too, for how to

construct models of the reals ( or, more generally, of 1st-order theory in the standard structure of the reals,

for other structures. ) of different cardinalities, re Lowenheim-Skolem. I would like to

avoid forcing if possible. If not, I will post it somewhere else, sorry.

Thanks.

Seriously sorry for bothering you so much; just to tell you I posted this in 'Set Theory ...' forum, so feel free to delete my post if necessary.
 
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