Lectures on the Varying fine structure constant

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The discussion revolves around the concept of the varying fine structure constant and its implications in cosmology. Participants explore research related to the time-variation of fundamental constants, referencing lectures and papers that address this topic.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants reference a series of lectures by John K Webb on variations in fundamental constants, indicating ongoing research in this area.
  • One participant suggests checking a Wikipedia article for references, although they note that the information may not be up to date.
  • Another participant discusses the relationship between the time-variation of the fine structure constant and other constants, presenting a mathematical expression that connects them.
  • There is mention of a specific paper that has not gained significant traction, yet may contain useful references for further reading.
  • Participants discuss strategies for finding relevant literature by following citations in academic papers, emphasizing the importance of exploring seminal works.
  • One participant proposes a model where the fine structure constant varies with the age of the Universe, suggesting a mathematical representation involving the Lambert function.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the reliability of Wikipedia as a resource and the completeness of the information available. There is no consensus on the patterns of change for the fine structure constant, and the discussion remains open-ended regarding the implications of its variation.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the limitations of available information, noting that certain references may not be comprehensive or current. The discussion includes unresolved mathematical expressions and assumptions about the relationships between constants.

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A University of Oxford and Cambridge Collaboration in 2014 produced a series of lectures "Cosmology and the constants of nature". John K Webb spoke on the topic of variations in the values of fundamental constants.
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Have you read e.g. the wikipedia article?
There are some references therein you should check out.

My former collegues wrote this paper which might be of some interest to you. It has only been cited by two other papers, so not that popular/impactful study. But there should be plenty of references therein for you to read.
 
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Thanks for the link to article.
Information on Wiki is not up to date.
But it can be true:
The time-variation of fine-structure constant is equivalent to the time-variation of one or more of: speed of light, Planck constant, vacuum permittivity, and elementary charge,
since $$\alpha = \frac {e^2} {2\epsilon_0 \cdot c \cdot h} $$
 
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Conn_coord said:
Information on Wiki is not up to date
Probably not but you have references to seminal papers from which you can find other papers and so on.
 
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Of course, you are right, the amount of material will increase. But this is how I go back in time :) . And I need something that is not yet in Wiki
 
Conn_coord said:
Of course, you are right, the amount of material will increase. But this is how I go back in time :) . And I need something that is not yet in Wiki
I think you do not understand what I meant.
Go to the papers listed on wiki, then look what articles are referring to those articles.
For instance this one: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/340921928_Four_direct_measurements_of_the_fine-structure_constant_13_billion_years_ago
click on "citations"
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/340921928_Four_direct_measurements_of_the_fine-structure_constant_13_billion_years_ago
BAM tons of papers to read. Then if you find an interesting paper among those, play the same game and find what papers are using that paper as a reference. And so on.
 
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OK, thanks.
That's how it works. I'll try to find what I need.
 
John K Webb is talking about the time variation of a fine structure constant.
At the same time, it does not suggest patterns of its change.
The simplest form is $$\alpha = f(T)$$, where T - age of the Universe.
In turn, we can represent T as $$ T = N \cdot t_0$$, where t0 - some kind of time standard chosen by a person.
As a reference, you can choose the Planck`s time:
$$ T = N\cdot t_0 = N \cdot \sqrt{\frac{Gh}{c^5}} $$

Then, using the work of E. Teller, Phys. Rev. 73, 801 (1948), On the Change of Physical Constants one can arrive at the expression:
$$ N= const \cdot \frac {1}{\alpha} \cdot e^{\frac{1}{\alpha}} $$
whose solution is the Lambert function.
 

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