Legal music file sharing program.

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The discussion centers around the search for legitimate peer-to-peer (P2P) music services that offer unlimited song downloads for a monthly fee, as opposed to the traditional 99 cents per song model. Users mention services like Rhapsody and Napster as potential solutions, highlighting the frustration with high music prices and the legality of downloading music. The conversation also touches on the impact of copyright laws and the challenges faced by consumers in accessing affordable music legally.

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  • Understanding of P2P file sharing concepts
  • Familiarity with music subscription services like Rhapsody and Napster
  • Knowledge of copyright laws related to music distribution
  • Awareness of the economic factors affecting music pricing
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  • Research the features and pricing of Rhapsody and Napster subscription services
  • Explore the legal implications of P2P music sharing and copyright laws
  • Investigate alternative music streaming services like Pandora and their business models
  • Learn about the impact of music pricing on consumer behavior and industry revenue
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Music enthusiasts, college students seeking affordable music options, and individuals interested in the legal aspects of music distribution and copyright laws.

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Is their a legitimate music p2p service that charges its customers a monthly fee for downloading unlimited songs instead of paying 99 cents for one song? Because I listen to a lot of music and 99 cents a song is just to expensive for a college student like me. I ask if there are legitimate p2p programs because my college IT department unfortunately detects music downloaded illegally.
 
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It's "unfortunate" that you have to obey the law?
 
Arent there a ton of places where you can pay one flat fee to download unlimited music? I think they only charge if you put it on a portable device, I can't remember the exact details though.
 
HallsofIvy said:
It's "unfortunate" that you have to obey the law?

yes , its very unfortunate that the music industry will not meet the demands of its customers by selling music at a lower price and millions and millions of people are forced to download music illegally.

in addition, the RIAA tries to stamp out international third parties who offer music to its customers at lower prices.
 
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I think Napster offers that kind of service, monthly subscription.
 
Benzoate said:
yes , its very unfortunate that the music industry will not meet the demands of its customers by selling music at a lower price and millions and millions of people are forced to download music illegally.
Sorry, but that's one of the most ridiculous remarks I've ever heard.

"I couldn't afford to buy the car, so I was forced to steal it". :rolleyes:
 
Evo said:
Sorry, but that's one of the most ridiculous remarks I've ever heard.

"I couldn't afford to buy the car, so I was forced to steal it". :rolleyes:

It would be more like "I couldn't afford to buy the car, so I was forced to make a copy the car from someone else who had bought the car".
 
Evo said:
Sorry, but that's one of the most ridiculous remarks I've ever heard.

"I couldn't afford to buy the car, so I was forced to steal it". :rolleyes:
s 99cents, 99% of the time, the same price of a single on a CD.

Well, when you used the DVR and/or radio to record music and movies, technically you are violating copyright infringement laws if you invite the whole neighborhood to watch the same movie and/or listen to recorded music you made for yourself. cars are priced at affordable prices for everybody. Music is not. Music is no longer transfer on a CD, and there it should be less expensive to produced nowadays and they are instantly available to consumers, so there should be no distribution fees:. you also have international music vendors that offer its services at a much cheaper fee to its customers than US music distribution vendors, but they are not allow to offer their services to US customers. Last time I check, our economy is a free market economy. technically, I did not violate any law. People who upload music are the ones who truly violate are copy right laws. If someone were having a yard sale and giving away their CD's to people in their neighborhood, that would be similar to downloading music from a person who wants to share it.

Be reasonable, if music is easily attainable, would you still go buy $300 for 300 singles if you had light bills and house bills to pay? Once they drop music prices to 2 cents per single or offer an affordable rate to people to download unlimited music , similar to XM radio only containing a music libray, then people will stopped downloading music illegally
 
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It isn't really a loss of revenue for the music industry either. If they are too expensive to buy, one wouldn't have bought it anyways. At least the artists gets more exposure for their material.
 
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Evo said:
Sorry, but that's one of the most ridiculous remarks I've ever heard.

"I couldn't afford to buy the car, so I was forced to steal it". :rolleyes:[/QUOTe

no what's ridiculous is that you would go actually by $400 dollars for 400 singles when you could have downloaded all those singles for free:smile:

cars are priced at affordable prices for everybody. Music is not. Music is no longer transfer on a CD, and there it should be less expensive to produced nowadays:. you also have international music vendors that offer its services at a much cheaper fee to its customers than US music distribution vendors, but they are not allow to offer their services to US customers. Last time I check, our economy is a free market economy. technically, I did not violate any law. People who upload music are the ones who truly violate are copy right laws. If someone were having a yard sale and giving away their CD's to people in their neighborhood, that would be similar to downloading music from a person who wants to share it.
 
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sorry for the triple post!
 
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Benzoate, have you heard of a radio? It's free music.

You don't need to download music.
 
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Rhapsody is a music-subscription service that comes to mind. I believe it has a flat monthly rate for all the music you care to download.

- Warren
 
  • #14
Evo said:
Benzoate, have you heard of a radio? It's free music.

You don't need to download music.

Most of the music they play on the radio is crap! where have you been? There are so many things wrong with radio. There are too many commercials , they never play the songs I want in order, and most of the songs want to hear are barely heard on radio.

Tell me one positive affect radio brings to people besides it being free to the public and static?
 
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Benzoate said:
Most of the music they play on the radio is crap! where have you been? There are so many things wrong with radio. There are too many commercials , they never play the songs I want in order, and most of the songs want to hear are barely heard on radio.

Tell me one positive affect radio brings to people besides it being free to the public and static?
I listen to an alternative radio station that plays bands you won't normally hear on other stations. I can't stand popular, rap, hip hop, or whatever they call that junk that's so popular these days.

What kind of music do you listen to?
 
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Evo said:
I listen to an alternative radio station that plays bands you won't normally hear on other stations. I can't stand popular, rap, hip hop, or whatever they call that junk that's so popular these days.

What kind of music do you listen to?

Well I like all kinds of music. I listen to ambient music(enigma), movie classical background music(i.e. John williams and danny elfman) classic rock (led zeppelin, the cure) old school rap(grandmaster flash and the fab five) soft rock(billy joel) all of the silent hill soundtracks, from the silent hill video game,metal gear solid soundtrack, norah jones , grunge, and of course weird al yankovic parody music.

all you hear on radio stations these days are pop , new hip hop, new rock and diluted oldies!

what kinds of music do you listen to?
 
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What about a satellite radio unit that you can use in your car and that is also complatible indoors?
 
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"I couldn't afford to buy the car, so I was forced to steal it".
Some people take that a step further. Even people that are PF Mentors. :-)


correction - Even PF admin. :-)
 
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Benzoate said:
99cents, 99% of the time, the same price of a single on a CD.

Once they drop music prices to 2 cents per single or offer an affordable rate to people to download unlimited music , similar to XM radio only containing a music library, then people will stop downloading music illegally

Benzoate,

I feel somewhat qualified to discuss this since I own a recording studio and a label. A reasonable cost for recording and distributing a pop album is between 500 thousand and one million dollars, or more depending on how you market it. Typical expenses are:

Paying artist advances. Paying for studio time, engineers, mixing and mastering. Creating websites, acquiring songs, paying radio specialists, publicists, advertising, distribution, licensing, video, and a host of other things.

When and IF you are able to bring it to market, you have to split the sales a number of ways -- the artist gets a cut, the studio, the distributor, the publisher, the songwriters, the retailer, etc.

At 2 cents a song you would have to sell 50,000,000 copies just to cover costs, but of course that would leave nothing to pay any of the entities above for their contribution.

Your attitude is just a rationalization for stealing.
 
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Here's what I do for free music. I use iTunes. What I do is I take a simple little USB stick, stick it into a friends computer, copy some of his music files onto it, and put it into my library files on my computer. Voila! Just copy music from your friends who payed for them!
 
  • #21
www.pandora.com

You can setup a station and listen for free (they only charge you if you want to skip a certain amount of songs per hour) You can set up a station (or multiple stations) and listen to music that they recommend based on your original choice

Say you like Pearl Jam you create a station for Pearl Jam on your account and they find songs on their database that have characteristics in common with Pearl Jam and their songs. You can also tell them whether you like a song or not, so that your building somewhat of an Expert System database of your kind of music. Each time you listen and rate songs it becomes more intelligent and gives you better results. I have been using it for almost 2 months and found it nearly flawless (i did get Tears for Fears songs in a Tool station...not sure how that happened but i corrected it haha :smile:)
 
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the only way you get to choose your music on the radio is with sattelite radio...and even that has a monthly fee!
 
  • #23
Umm... answers abound!Look about and you shall find them
-Internet radio, lots of choices for all tastes
-Services like Rhapsody and Napster, although I believe at least one of the two removes all the songs you have when your subscription ends
-LimeWire, while technically frowned upon, seriously these artists are making huge amounts and the ones that actually need the money prolly don't have their songs recorded.
-and last but not least...Dead musicians!Yay! Let's see, there's Stevie Ray, John Lennon, Kurt Cobain, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, and many more!
(Note: Dead musicians part was for comedic effect)
 
  • #24
meh IP is an antiquated concept
 
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ice109 said:
meh IP is an antiquated concept
IP as in Internet Protocol?
 
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Anttech said:
IP as in Internet Protocol?

intellectual property
 
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ice109 said:
meh IP is an antiquated concept
If you wrote a catchy song (even a stupid one like "Don't Worry, Be Happy") and it got lots of airplay, and an ad agency wanted to purchase the rights for a big client, I think you'd find out pretty quick how "antiquated" the concept is. Artists deserve to be paid for their efforts.
 

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