Length Contraction: Solving for L

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a rod of proper length L_0 moving at a speed v, making an angle θ_0 with respect to the x'-axis. The task is to derive the length of the rod as measured by a stationary observer, incorporating concepts of length contraction from special relativity.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the definition of proper length and whether L_0 is the proper length in the S frame. Questions arise about the relevance of a diagram and the correct interpretation of length contraction in relation to the angles involved. There is also a focus on how to calculate the length using coordinates and the potential confusion between different approaches.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with some participants clarifying their understanding of the problem setup and the relationships between the different frames. Guidance has been offered regarding the need to consider multiple coordinates for length measurement, and one participant expresses a realization about overcomplicating their approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants are grappling with the visualization of the problem, particularly in drawing the appropriate diagram to represent the situation accurately. There is an acknowledgment of the complexities introduced by the angles and the frames of reference involved.

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Homework Statement



A rod of length L_0 moves with a speed v along the horizontal direction. The rod makes an angle of θ_0 with respect to the x'-axis.

a. Show that the length of the rod as measured by a stationary observer is given by L = L_o [1 - (v^2 / c^2) cos^2 (θ_o) ]^(.5)


Homework Equations



L = L_p/ gamma

The Attempt at a Solution



I have a few questions:

Is L proper L_o (the S frame?)
When I am trying to find the length of the rod as measured by a stationary observer do I refer to the graph to the right?

Horizontal length is all I need to worry about, correct?

L = L_o / gamma

x' = L cos θ_o

x' = x ( 1 - v^2/c^2 )^(-1/2)

L cos θ_o = x ( 1 - v^2/c^2 )^(-1/2)

L = x / [ (1 - v^2/c^2 )^(1/2) cos θ_o ] where x = L_o

L = L_o / [ (1 - v^2/c^2 )^(1/2) cos θ_o ]

Am I on the right track? I can't seem to make it look like:
L = L_o [1 - (v^2 / c^2) cos^2 (θ_o) ]^(.5)
 

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Wait, huh, is the picture you attached one given by the problem or something you made? The picture is really different from how I read the problem.

The way you're approaching the problem seems fine. But if you're going to find the x coordinates, you need to find two x coordinates because length is x2-x1. Looks like you're doing a strange mixing of length contraction and x coordinates. Either approach is okay, but you'll probably confuse yourself going between them (confused me at least).
 
Yes I think that is my problem. I don't know how to draw the diagram. Can you explain me what you understood? I have read it several times and I just don't get it
 
So you have an S' that moving relative to the S frame; their x-axis is collinear. In S' we have a proper length L_o, and the length makes an angle with respect to the x' axis. So the part that will be contracted is L_o*cosØ'. L_o*sinØ' will stay the same in both frames. S even sees a different angle than S' does.
 
Thank you, I figured out the problem. I was making it way too complicated.
 

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