[Special Relativity] - Finding Angle θ as Measured in Frame S

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of an angle θ as measured in frame S, related to special relativity concepts, particularly involving Lorentz contraction and the geometry of a rod positioned in different reference frames.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • The original poster attempts to derive the angle θ using relationships involving Lorentz contraction and trigonometric identities. They express uncertainty about the relevance of the x'-y' plane in their solution and seek clarification on whether it impacts their calculations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have acknowledged the original poster's approach as valid, while others have provided insights regarding the significance of the x'-y' plane, suggesting it serves to clarify the context of the problem without implying a definitive resolution.

Contextual Notes

The original poster is grappling with the implications of the rod's orientation in the x'-y' plane and its relationship to the angle measurement in the context of special relativity. There is an indication of potential ambiguity in how this aspect might influence the overall understanding of the problem.

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Homework Statement
Frame ##S'## moves with velocity ##V## in the ##x##-direction relative to frame ##S##. A rod in the frame ##S'## lying on the ##x'-y'## plane makes an angle ##\theta '## with respect to the forward direction of motion.
What is the angle ##\theta## as measured in ##S##?
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Refer to the solution below: ##\rightarrow##
Below is the attempted solution after researching the contents available on Introduction to Electrodynamics by Griffith.

To begin with, I defined the rod as having a length of ##l'## at rest in frame ##S'##. Thus, in frame ##S'##, the height of the rod is ##l' sin(\theta ')## and its horizontal projection will similarly be ##l' cos(\theta ')##.

While the height of the rod is not affected if seen by an observer from frame ##S##, the horizontal projection is - on the other hand - Lorentz contracted to ##\frac{1}{\gamma} l' cos(\theta ')##.

Thus, my conclusion is simple. The angle will therefore be:
$$tan \theta = \frac{l' sin(\theta ')}{\frac{1}{\gamma} l' cos(\theta')} = \gamma tan(\theta ') \Longrightarrow \theta = arctan(\gamma \tan(\theta '))$$

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$$tan \theta = \frac{tan (\theta ')}{\sqrt{1- v^2/c^2}} \Longrightarrow \theta = arctan(\frac{tan (\theta ')}{\sqrt{1- v^2/c^2}})$$

Thus, the above angle is the angle of the rod measured in frame ##S##. What does everybody think of the answer? What confuses me the most regarding the above-attempted solution is do I need to do anything about the ##x' -y'## part of the question? Or, can I conveniently disregard that piece of information? For some reason, I feel like the rod lying on the ##x'-y'## plane in the frame ##S'## plays a role in solving for the question.

Any help or guidance on the matter would be sincerely appreciated. Thank you all for your kind assistance!
 
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Looks good to me.
 
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Athenian said:
What confuses me the most regarding the above-attempted solution is do I need to do anything about the ##x' -y'## part of the question? Or, can I conveniently disregard that piece of information? For some reason, I feel like the rod lying on the ##x'-y'## plane in the frame ##S'## plays a role in solving for the question.

It's true that the rod could be lying in any other plane, as long as the angle is measured with respect to the direction of motion. Specifying the x'-y' plane was just to give you something definite to work with.
 
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PeroK said:
It's true that the rod could be lying in any other plane, as long as the angle is measured with respect to the direction of motion. Specifying the x'-y' plane was just to give you something definite to work with.

Great! Thank you very much for the confirmation as well as the explanation!
 

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