Length of the curve - parametric

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The discussion revolves around finding the definite integral formula for the length of a parametric curve defined by the equations \(x = 2 \cos^k(t)\) and \(y = 2 \sin^k(t)\) for \(0 \leq t \leq \frac{\pi}{2}\), where \(k > 0\). Participants are exploring the correct application of the arc length formula in this context.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the derivation of the arc length formula and the application of derivatives with respect to \(t\). There are questions about the correctness of the original integral expression and requests for clarification on the steps taken to arrive at it.

Discussion Status

Some participants have identified potential mistakes in the original expressions and are seeking to clarify their reasoning. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct application of the formula, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention issues with LaTeX formatting and the clarity of their work, indicating that the presentation of their attempts may be affecting the discussion.

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Find the definite integral formula for the length of the curve for
$$0 \leq t \leq \frac \pi 2$$

$$x = 2*cos^k(t)$$
$$y = 2*sin^k(t)$$

for general $$k \gt 0$$2. The attempt at a solution

I don't understand why this is wrong:

$$\int_0^\frac \pi 2\ \sqrt{{(2*k*cos(t)*(-sin(t))}^2+{(2*k*sin(t)*cos(t)})^2} dt$$

Not in LaTex - sqrt((2*k*cos(t)*(-sin(t)))^2+(2*k*sin(t)*cos(t))^2)

An arc length, parametric form. I have taken derivatives of course. :(
 
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How did you arrive at that expression? Please show us your attempt, not just the end result!
 
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Orodruin said:
How did you arrive at that expression? Please show us your attempt, not just the end result!
Of course, but I am very slow with LaTex. Just a moment.
 
Poetria said:
Of course, but I am very slow with LaTex. Just a moment.

I took a formula:

$$ds = \sqrt { (\frac {dx} {dt})^2 + ({\frac {dy} {dt}})^2}$$

and put the derivatives with respect to t. I used the chain rule of course.
 
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Poetria said:
I took a formula:

$$ds = \sqrt { \frac {dx} {dt}^2 + {\frac {dy} {dt}}^2}$$

and put the derivatives with respect to t. I used the chain rule of course.
This still does not show your work. If you do this correctly you will not get what you showed in the original post.
 
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Orodruin said:
This still does not show your work. If you do this correctly you will not get what you showed in the original post.

Well, I have discovered a mistake (mismatched brackets but it was correct in the version for Wolfram Alpha) but I guess it is not what you mean.
 
Ah ok I think I got it.
 
Many thanks. So silly a mistake!
 

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