Leo's book [energy loss of heavy charged particles]

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The discussion revolves around the section on energy loss of heavy charged particles in atomic collisions from W.R. Leo's book "Techniques for Nuclear and Particle Physics Experiments." Participants seek clarification on the reference to "two electromagnetic processes" and the nature of these processes in the context of charged particles.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion regarding the term "electromagnetic processes" as it relates to charged particles, suggesting a misunderstanding of the terminology.
  • Another participant clarifies that the two electromagnetic processes mentioned are inelastic collisions with atomic electrons and elastic scattering from nuclei, noting that inelastic collisions are the dominant process.
  • A further explanation is provided about the role of the electromagnetic interaction in these processes, emphasizing that they are mediated by the exchange of photons.
  • Participants discuss the fundamental forces of nature and how they relate to physical processes, specifically focusing on the electromagnetic interaction in the context of nuclear scattering.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the identification of the two electromagnetic processes and their roles, but there remains some uncertainty regarding the terminology and the implications of these processes for understanding energy loss in heavy charged particles.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the initial confusion regarding the terminology used in the book, and participants do not reach a consensus on the clarity of the explanation provided.

BUI TUAN KHAI
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Dear all,

I am reading the "Techniques for Nuclear and Particle Physics Experiments" of W.R.Leo.
I am confused when reading the section 2.2. Energy Loss of Heavy Charged Particles in Atomic Collisions (page 21).

At the beginning of the second paragraph (from the bottom up), it is written that "Of the two electromagnetic processes" ? Why is it written like this? I think electromagnetic processes are X-rays, gamma-rays, etc., but not charged particles !

Please give me some explanations or advises if you have.

Thanks in advance !
 
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He starts that section "These effects are primarily the result of two processes: 1) inelastic collisions with the atomic electrons of the material. 2) Elastic scattering from nuclei".

These are the two electromagnetic processes he is referring to in that sentence, and saying that inelastic collisions on atomic electrons are the dominant process, as elastic scattering from nuclei happens much rarely, and does not transfer as much energy.

They are electromagnetic processes as they are mediated by the electromagnetic interaction.

Hope this helps!
 
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@e.bar.goum :
Thank you for your response

e.bar.goum said:
They are electromagnetic processes as they are mediated by the electromagnetic interaction.

Hope this helps!

"mediated by the electromagnetic interaction" ? what do you mean about this? Could you please explain more clearly for me?
 
Ok, so, as I'm sure you know, there are four fundamental forces of nature - strong, weak, electromagnetic, gravitation. Anytime a physical process happens, like the scattering of nuclei off of electrons, one of the four forces needs to be responsible for making the process happen. For instance, the gravitational interaction is what keeps planets in orbit. The weak interaction is responsible for beta decay of nuclei, and the strong force is what keeps nuclei together.

In the case of nuclear scattering, this is in the most part due to the electromagnetic interaction - the nucleus and the electron come close to each other, and exchange photons, which we say are the "force carrying" particles for electromagnetism, and the electron and the nucleus scatters off of each other.

Another example of an electromagnetic interaction is the Coulomb repulsion of two like charges, or how particles move in magnetic fields.

Does that clear it up?
 
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It is fantastic ! Thank you so much.
 

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