Let f, g and h be functions defined below:

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The discussion revolves around determining the domains of three functions: f(x), g(x), and h(x). The original poster presents specific domain claims for each function and attempts to validate them through substitution and reasoning.

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  • Participants explore the domains of the functions by substituting values and checking for undefined expressions. There is a focus on understanding the implications of indeterminate forms, particularly in relation to h(x).

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There is ongoing debate regarding the correctness of the domain claims, especially for h(x). Some participants suggest that the reasoning for h(x) needs clarification, while others emphasize the importance of factoring to understand the domain better. Multiple interpretations of the domain are being explored.

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Participants note that division by zero leads to undefined expressions, which affects the domain of h(x). There is also mention of homework constraints regarding how to approach the problem and the necessity of justifying domain claims accurately.

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Homework Statement


f(x)=(√x^2-3x+2)/(2x-3),
g(x)=3/(√(x+3)) and
h(x)=(x^2-5x+6)/(x-2)

which of the following are true:
A)Df={x∈ℝ:x≤1 or x≥2}
B)Dg={x∈ℝ:x≥-3}
C)Dh=ℝ

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The Attempt at a Solution


I am using substitution here by replacing the x by the parameters specified and slightly further:

Df={x∈ℝ:x≤1 or x≥2}
f(x)=(√(0^2-3(0)+2))/(2(0)-3) (yes this is ok)
f(x)=(√(1^2-3(1)+2))/(2(1)-3) (yes this is ok)
f(x)=(√(-1^2-3(-1)+2))/(2(-1)-3) (yes this is ok)
f(x)=(√(2^2-3(2)+2))/(2(2)-3) (yes this is ok)
f(x)=(√(3^2-3(3)+2))/(232)-3) (yes this is ok)

Dg={x∈ℝ:x≥-3}
g(x)=3/(√(-3+3)) gets 3/0 Undefined?
g(x)=3/(√(-2+3)) (yes this is ok)

Dh=ℝ
h(x)=(x^2-5x+6)/(x-2)
h(x)=(1^2-5(1)+6)/(1-2) (yes this is ok)
h(x)=(2^2-5(2)+6)/(2-2) (yes this is ok)

So my answer would be:
A and C are true.
 
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Your answers are correct.
[EDIT:-however your reasoning for ##h(x)## is wrong. 2^2-2*5+6/(2-2)=0/0, which is indeterminate.
HINT:-factorize the numerator of ##h(x)## to see why your answer is correct nonetheless.]
 
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certainly said:
Your answers are correct.
[EDIT:-however your reasoning for ##h(x)## is wrong. 2^2-2*5+6/(2-2)=0/0, which is indeterminate.
HINT:-factorize the numerator of ##h(x)## to see why your answer is correct nonetheless.]

0/0 is just 0 isn't it?
 
They are the same.
 
So why would you say in is undefined?
 
Jaco Viljoen said:
0/0 is just 0 isn't it?
No. 0/0 is indeterminate. The previous post was for a post that I think you deleted?
 
certainly said:
No. 0/0 is indeterminate. The previous post was for a post that I think you deleted?
So wouldn't only A be correct/true,

Factorise
h(x)=(2^2-5(2)+6)=(4-10+6)=0
I don't think I understand...
 
Jaco Viljoen said:
So wouldn't only A be correct/true,

Factorise
h(x)=(2^2-5(2)+6)=(4-10+6)=0
I don't think I understand...
C is also correct.
Factorize ##x^2-5x+6##, then see if anything changes in ##h(x)## because of that.
 
Jaco Viljoen said:

Homework Statement


h(x)=(x^2-5x+6)/(x-2)

which of the following are true:
C)Dh=ℝ

The Attempt at a Solution


I am using substitution here by replacing the x by the parameters specified and slightly further:

Dh=ℝ
h(x)=(x^2-5x+6)/(x-2)
h(x)=(1^2-5(1)+6)/(1-2) (yes this is ok)
No, the above should be h(1). h(x) = ##\frac{x^2 - 5x + 6}{x - 2}##
Jaco Viljoen said:
h(x)=(2^2-5(2)+6)/(2-2) (yes this is ok)
This (above) should be h(2), which is NOT OK. As certainly said, this results in the indeterminate form 0/0, which should suggest that 2 is not in the domain of h.
Jaco Viljoen said:
So my answer would be:
A and C are true.
 
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Mark44 said:
No, the above should be h(1). h(x) = ##\frac{x^2 - 5x + 6}{x - 2}##
This (above) should be h(2), which is NOT OK. As certainly said, this results in the indeterminate form 0/0, which should suggest that 2 is not in the domain of h.

Mark,
so is it only A?
Certainly agrees with my initial answer, but I am not sure why?
He has asked me to factor as above, I have but still not clear why?
 
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Jaco Viljoen said:
Mark,
so is it only A?
Certainly agrees with my initial answer, but I am not sure why?
He has asked me to factor as above, I have but still not clear why?
Write the formula for h(x) in factored form. IOW,
$$h(x) = \frac{(?)(?)}{x - 2}$$

In the factored form it is easier to see that for some value(s) of x, both the numerator and denominator are zero. This means that at any such value, the function h is not defined, so the domain is not all of R (the reals).
 
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(x-3)(x-2)
if x is 2 or 3 it will be zero,
but how can 0/0 undefined = ℝ?
 
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Jaco Viljoen said:
(x-3)(x-2)
The full answer to my question is: ##h(x) = \frac{(x-3)(x-2)}{x - 2}##
Jaco Viljoen said:
if x is 2 or 3 it will be zero,
but how can 0/0 undefined = ℝ?
h(3) = 0/1 = 0
h(2) is not zero. Since division by zero is not defined, 2 is not in the domain of h.

0/0 is not a number -- it is one of several indeterminate forms. These usually show up as limits, which I'm pretty sure you haven't covered yet.
 
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I was a bit confused there about something, Mark is right, the domain is all of ##\mathbb{R}## except 2, so yeah, C is wrong.
 
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Jaco Viljoen said:
Dh=ℝ
h(x)=(x^2-5x+6)/(x-2)
h(x)=(1^2-5(1)+6)/(1-2) (yes this is ok)
h(x)=(2^2-5(2)+6)/(2-2) (yes this is ok)
When determining the domain here, you don't need to look at what the numerator is equal to. You simply have to note that the denominator is 0 when x=2, so h isn't defined for x=2. Division by 0 is always undefined.
 
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