Lie Detection: Testing Truth or Falsehood?

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving lie detection and the interpretation of probabilities associated with the outcomes of a lie detector test. The context includes a scenario where a suspect claims innocence, and the reliability of the lie detector is questioned based on its statistical performance.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the interpretation of the problem statement and the probabilities related to the lie detector's accuracy. There is uncertainty about the phrasing and completeness of the problem, with some questioning whether the provided probabilities can lead to meaningful conclusions without additional information.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various interpretations of the problem. Some have suggested that the phrasing may imply joint probabilities, while others express concern over the lack of clarity and completeness in the original problem statement. There is no explicit consensus on the correct interpretation or approach to the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem appears to be a translation, which may contribute to its ambiguity. There is also mention of a potential need for a priori probabilities to fully address the questions posed.

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Homework Statement



A crime has been committed and the police have only captured a suspect, although he obviously claims to be innocent. To give a verdict the judge authorizes the use of the lie detector. The manufacturer of the device warns the authority that the lie detector in 10% of the cases in which it has been used showed a positive reading (that is to say lie), since in fact the suspect spoke with the truth. So too, the detector in 95% of the cases, has given a positive reading when the suspects really lied.
A) tell a lie the detector shows a positive reading
B) do not tell a lie and the detector shows positive reading
C) tell a lie and the detector shows negative reading
D) do not lie and the detector shows a negative reading

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well this might be too simple or to complex i don't know, but i need to know if i am right in my responses because my career is in play.
a)95%
b)10%
c)5%
d)90%
i use the complement of probabilities to estimate the ungiven probabilities if i am wrong please help me
pr(F/T)=0.10 pr(Fc/T)=0.90
pr(F/L)=0.05 pr(Fc/L)=0.95
 
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Is that the exact problem statement in English? It has a strange phrasing.
 
Yes it is, in fact very weird problem
 
(A) to (D) are not even complete sentences, and there is no actual problem statement.

I guess your interpretation is reasonable, but it is really guesswork. With the given numbers you cannot calculate more than what you did.
 
Because it is a translation it is hard to be sure, but in English the questions read as though they refer to joint probabilities (lie AND positive). That would require some a priori probability of a lie, which we do not have, but if we were to have such the whole question setting would make more sense. It would lead into asking the probability of guilt given the result of the lie detector. Very Bayesian.
 
i can swear that the problem is like that, i think the problems are designed by the profesor, can't find it in the internet, so its very weird
just gives two data as you can see above and 4 questions i can't put the questions in this way
a) probability of lie given the detector shows positive reading i think this mean pr(L/Fc)
 

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