Light propagation through polarizers

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The discussion centers around the behavior of light as it passes through multiple polarizers, specifically examining the transmission of light when unpolarized light is first polarized in one direction and then passed through a series of polarizers oriented at different angles. The scope includes theoretical considerations and conceptual clarifications regarding polarization and light behavior.

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  • One participant questions whether any light is transmitted through a y-polarizer after passing through an x-polarizer and a third polarizer oriented at 45 degrees (x+y direction).
  • Another participant suggests that light will be transmitted because the x-polarized light has a component in the x+y direction, and the x+y polarized light has a component in the y-direction.
  • A later reply emphasizes that polarizers behave differently than simple filters, noting that the amount of light transmitted is proportional to the square of the cosine of the angle between the light's polarization and the polarizer's orientation.
  • One participant raises a question about the applicability of these concepts to classical waves, indicating difficulty in visualizing the situation.
  • Another participant describes a scenario where an x-polarized beam passes through a 45-degree beam splitter, suggesting that the resulting beam can then pass through a y-polarizer at 50% intensity.

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Participants express differing views on whether light will be transmitted through the y-polarizer after passing through the other polarizers. There is no consensus on the outcome, and multiple competing views remain regarding the behavior of light in this context.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express confusion regarding the behavior of polarizers, indicating a potential limitation in understanding the underlying principles. The discussion does not resolve the mathematical or conceptual uncertainties present.

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This discussion may be of interest to those studying optics, polarization, or related fields in physics, as well as individuals curious about the behavior of light in various contexts.

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A beam of unpolarized light falls upon a polarizer which polarizes the light in e.g. x - direction. After that polarizer, we put another one which polarizes it along the y - direction. Of course, no light is transmited. Now we put a third polarizer between the first two, so that the third one polarizes the light in the x + y direction (the diagonal). Is any light transmited form the y - polarizer and if so, why? If not, why?
 
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Why don't you give it a shot.
 
I think that there will be some light because x-polarized light has a component in the x+y direction and also the x+y - polarized light has a component in the y-direction. So, putting in a third polarizer would act as a sorce of light. On the other hand, I always considered polarizers as some sort of filters so it confuzes me.
 
here is the experiment on youtube
 
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You're exactly right. And it is weird!---polarizers are a lot like filters, but this is a good example of quantum(like) behavior contradicting our intuition. Apparently polarizing filters are a little more complicated than normal filters---which simply remove one aspect, leaving everything but that aspect.

When light of one polarization passes through a polarizer, the amount of light that will be transmitted is proportional to the square of the cosine of the angle between the polarization and the polarization filter, i.e. [tex]\textrm{Prob} \propto \cos^2 \theta[/tex]. Thus for any non-90 degree angle, some light will go through, regardless of the previous history of polarization.
 
What about classical waves (on a string)? On second thought, this might also apply to them. It's hard for me to visualise things like this.
 
Take an X polarized beam. None of it will pass through a Y polarizer. Now run that beam through a 45 degree beam splitter and then recombine the outputs. That resulting beam will go through a Y polarizer at a 50% intensity.
 

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