Limiting the Expression of Tangent and Sine

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the limit of a fraction involving tangent and sine functions as the variable approaches zero. The subject area includes calculus, specifically limits and trigonometric functions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss various methods such as Taylor expansion, L'Hôpital's rule, and small angle approximations. There is a suggestion to rewrite tangent in terms of sine and cosine, and questions arise about the effectiveness of these approaches in simplifying the limit.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring different approaches and questioning the effectiveness of their methods. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of trigonometric identities and limit properties, but no consensus has been reached on a definitive method to solve the limit.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the potential complications in the denominator and the challenges posed by the limit approaching an indeterminate form. There is an emphasis on the need for the original poster to demonstrate their work to facilitate further discussion.

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Find \mathop {\lim }\limits_{x \to 0} \frac{{\tan (nx) - n\tan (x)}}<br /> {{n\sin (x) - \sin (nx)}}
 
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What did you try already?
Taylor expansion? L'Hôpitals rule?
 
I'm taking a guess here, but couldn't tan(nx) be extracted to sin(nx) / cos(nx) ?

Or is that complicating things, or just wrong?
 
That's right and possible though I doubt it will simplify things (but unless you know the Taylor expansion / small argument approximation / derivative and what more you may need to calculate the limit for the tangent, you can use tan = sin/cos to find them). But I think it is time for the TS to show some work.
 
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Small angle approximation, Taylor expansion and L'Hopital's rule is all exactly the same :( Well, at least here it is.
 
Another approach, after rewriting the tangent terms as sine/cosine terms, would be to divide top and bottom by x and, with multiplications above and below by n in appropriate places, exploit the heck out of

lim u->0 (sin u)/u = 1 .

[EDIT: Ah-haha! Not so simple as this one looks. This approach does nothing to fix the problem with the denominator. And l'Hopital doesn't fare much better, as you'll get 0 - 0 in the denominator endlessly. I'm checking to see if there's a "nice" way to eliminate the difference in the denominator...]
 
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dynamicsolo said:
exploit the heck out of

lim u->0 (sin u)/u = 1 .

Which, again, is just another form of applying small angle approximation/l'hopital/taylor series =D
 

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