How Can I Understand Limits and Continuity in Calculus?

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The discussion revolves around understanding limits and continuity in calculus, particularly focusing on theorems related to continuous functions and piecewise functions. Participants express confusion about the definitions and applications of continuity, as well as specific problems involving piecewise functions and their continuity at certain points.

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  • One participant questions the theorem stating that if F and G are continuous at A, then operations like F+G, F-G, CF, FG, and F/G (where G≠0) are also continuous at A, expressing confusion over the explanation provided in their textbook.
  • Another participant suggests that the first question is too broad and emphasizes the need to understand what continuity means.
  • A participant provides a method to determine the value of c for a piecewise function to ensure continuity at x=2, stating that the two expressions must be equal at that point.
  • One participant elaborates on the proof of continuity for the sum of two functions, referencing the limit theorems and the definition of continuity, while questioning what aspect of the explanation was unclear to the original poster.
  • Concerns are raised about a graphical representation of a function with breaks, where a participant wonders if a dot over a break indicates a change in the function or a different function altogether.
  • Further clarification is provided regarding the limits of the piecewise function as x approaches 2 from both sides, emphasizing the need for the limits to be equal for continuity.

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Participants express various levels of understanding and confusion regarding the concepts of limits and continuity. There is no consensus on the clarity of the explanations provided, and multiple viewpoints on how to approach the problems remain present.

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Some participants highlight the need for a deeper understanding of continuity and theorems related to limits, indicating that the discussion may depend on prior knowledge and definitions that are not fully agreed upon.

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I am reading through calc1 and reviewing Limits and Continuity/Discontinuity, I have so many questions!

There is a theorem here, it says if F and G are continuous at A and C is a constant, then the following are continues at a: F+G, F-G, CF, FG, F/G (G!=0)
however the explanation I read for this makes no sense to me! (F+G)(A)

Another question I have, for continuous functions, say I am given a piecewise function:
cx^2+2x if x<2
x^3 - cx if x>= 2
I am suppose to find what makes this function continuous everywhere. I went back to read my book to find an example of this to break it down to the most simplest steps but could not find anything T.T (Squeezes teacher, I must solve). How do I start to even begin this problem?

I was looking at a graph, it was just a random function with squiggly lines. Several breaks in the function was no problem, I noticed that as my eye went from left to right, in one spot the line broke, a dot appeared over it, and then the line started in the same direction from a different starting point. Since the little dot randomly appeared over the break, does that mean that the point at which the line broke was moved? or is it a whole different function?

O_O ahh brain burnz, I like cheese.
 
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Your first question is too broad. It looks like you need to understand what continuity means.

For the second question:
At x=2, the x<2 expression is 4c+4, while the x>2 expression is 8-2c. For continuity, you need to find the value of c where they are equal:
4c+4=8-2c.
 
Chenelle said:
There is a theorem here, it says if F and G are continuous at A and C is a constant, then the following are continues at a: F+G, F-G, CF, FG, F/G (G!=0)
however the explanation I read for this makes no sense to me! (F+G)(A)

All of these statements are direct consequences of the corresponding basic limit theorems, since continuity is defined by the existence of a limit equal to the value of the function at a point. Review your chapter on limits.
 
Chenelle said:
I am reading through calc1 and reviewing Limits and Continuity/Discontinuity, I have so many questions!

There is a theorem here, it says if F and G are continuous at A and C is a constant, then the following are continues at a: F+G, F-G, CF, FG, F/G (G!=0)
however the explanation I read for this makes no sense to me! (F+G)(A)
What was the explanation then? The only proof I've ever seen is:

To prove that F+ G is constant at x= A, look at
\lim_{x\to A} F(x)+ G(x)
by the basic limit theorem for sums, that is
\lim_{x\to A}F(x)+ \lim_{x\to A}G(x)
and, since F is continuous at A,
\lim_{x\to A}F(x)= F(A)
(that is the definition of "continuous at x= A")
and, since G is continuous at A,
\lim_{x\to A}G(x)= G(A)
so that
\lim_{x\to A}F(x)+ G(x)= F(A)+ G(A)
proving that F+ G is continuous at x= A.
What does not make sense about that?

Another question I have, for continuous functions, say I am given a piecewise function:
cx^2+2x if x<2
x^3 - cx if x>= 2
I am suppose to find what makes this function continuous everywhere. I went back to read my book to find an example of this to break it down to the most simplest steps but could not find anything T.T (Squeezes teacher, I must solve). How do I start to even begin this problem?

I was looking at a graph, it was just a random function with squiggly lines. Several breaks in the function was no problem, I noticed that as my eye went from left to right, in one spot the line broke, a dot appeared over it, and then the line started in the same direction from a different starting point. Since the little dot randomly appeared over the break, does that mean that the point at which the line broke was moved? or is it a whole different function?

O_O ahh brain burnz, I like cheese.
For x< 2 f(x)= cx^2+ 2x so
\lim_{x\to 2^-} f(x)= \lim_{x\to 2^-} cx^2+ 2x= 4c+ 4[/itex]<br /> because cx^2+ 2x is a polynomial and so always continuous.<br /> <br /> For x&gt; 2, f(x)= x^3- cx so<br /> \lim_{x\to 2^+} f(x)= \lim_{x\to 2^+} x^2- cx= 8- 2c[/itex]&lt;br /&gt; again because x^3- cx is a polynomial.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; In order to be continuous at x= 2 we must first have that f(x) &lt;b&gt;has&lt;/b&gt; a limit at x= 2 which means that those two one-sided limits must be the same: 4c+4= 8- 2c.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Solve that equation for c. We must also have that the limit is equal to the value of the function there so, whatever you get for c, set f(2) equal to the common value of 4c+4 and 8- 2c.
 

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