Line element under coordinate transformation to get polar form

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The discussion revolves around transforming a given line element in a 2-space metric into polar coordinates. The line element is defined as ds² = (dr² + r² dθ²) / (r² - a²) - (r² dr²) / ((r² - a²)²). The user seeks assistance in expressing dθ in terms of dr and dφ, utilizing the relation r(dθ/dr) = tan(φ). The solution involves matrix representation of the metric and the calculation of Christoffel symbols, leading to the geodesic equation that ultimately demonstrates the mapping to a Euclidean plane in polar coordinates.

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Homework Statement


Hello Guys, I am reading Hobson's General Relativity and I have come across an exercise problem, part of which frustrates me:
3.20 (P. 91)
In the 2-space with line element
[itex]ds^2=\frac{dr^{2}+r^{2}d\theta^{2}}{r^{2}-a^{2}}-\frac{r^{2}dr^{2}}{{(r^{2}-a^{2})}^{2}}[/itex]

and given [itex]r{\frac{d\theta}{dr}}=tan\phi[/itex]
show that the space is mapped to a Euclidean plane in which (r, phi) are taken as polar coordinates.

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So I attempted to express [itex]d\theta[/itex] as a l.c. of dr and dphi, but I don't know how to handle the [itex]\frac{d\theta}{dr}[/itex] the given relation [itex]r{\frac{d\theta}{dr}}=tan\phi[/itex]

to express the [itex]d\theta[/itex] in given line element in terms of dphi and dr

Thanks for any help =]
 
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I can't finished the problem too.

We can write the matrix representation of the metric:
[itex]g_{\mu\nu} = -\dfrac{a^2}{(r^2-a^2)^2} dr^2 + \dfrac{r^2}{r^2-a^2} d\theta^2[/itex]

From which we can write the matrix representation and the inverse and use

[itex]\Gamma^a_{bc} = \dfrac{1}{2}g^{af}...[/itex]

to obtain the following connections:

[itex]\Gamma^r_{rr}=-\dfrac{2r}{r^2-a^2} \; \Gamma^r_{\theta\theta}=-r[/itex]
[itex]\Gamma^\theta_{r\theta}=\Gamma^\theta_{\theta r}=-\dfrac{a^2}{r(r^2-a^2)}[/itex]

When I go to geodesic eq: [itex]\dfrac{d^2 x^a}{d\lambda^2} + \Gamma^a_{\alpha\beta} \dfrac{dx^\alpha}{d\lambda} \dfrac{dx^\beta}{d\lambda}=0[/itex]

and substitute I can't find a way to obtain the equation wanted in the problem:
[itex]a^2 \left(\dfrac{dr}{d\theta}\right)^2 + a^2r^2 = Kr^4[/itex]
where K is a constant such if K = 1 then geodesic is null...

Thanks in advance.
 
Sorry, forgot to post the second part of the answer.

We can see that the equation [itex]a^2 \left(\dfrac{d^2r}{d\theta^2}\right)^2 + \ldots[/itex] is a line in polar coordinates by substituting directly with [itex]\dfrac{dr}{d\theta}=cotg\phi[/itex].

We obtain something like [itex]cotg\phi + 1 = K\left(\dfrac{r}{a}\right)^2[/itex]

If we write the equation for line in Cartesian [itex]y = ax + b[/itex] with [itex]a,b[/itex] parameters and make the coordinate change to polar coordinates we get [itex]\dfrac{b}{r} = 1 - acotg\phi[/itex]

We can see the two equations have the same form to error of free parameters [itex]a,b[/itex]
 

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