Linear algebra done right for qm

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The discussion revolves around the value of studying proofs in the book "Linear Algebra Done Right" as a means to understand the formalism of quantum mechanics (QM). Participants explore the relationship between rigorous mathematical understanding and practical application in QM, considering whether every proof is necessary for a solid foundation in the subject.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that studying every proof is essential for understanding vector spaces and linear operators, which are foundational for QM.
  • Others suggest that if the goal is merely to understand QM, one might not need to engage with all the proofs in the book.
  • A participant emphasizes that having a background in proofs is necessary for tackling more advanced topics in QM.
  • There is a suggestion that a less rigorous approach, such as reading "Linear Algebra Done Wrong," could be beneficial for those concerned about the seriousness of the material.
  • Another viewpoint is that while the entirety of "Linear Algebra Done Right" may not be necessary, grasping the main ideas of each chapter is important for QM.
  • One participant mentions that intuition for QM can be developed through finite-dimensional vector spaces, despite the complexities of infinite-dimensional spaces.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the necessity of studying every proof in the book. While some advocate for a thorough approach, others believe it may not be essential depending on individual goals related to understanding QM. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal strategy for learning.

Contextual Notes

Some participants indicate that the approach to studying linear algebra may depend on the specific goals of the learner, highlighting the potential for varying interpretations of what constitutes a solid foundation in the mathematics relevant to QM.

Ahmad Kishki
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I am trying to learn the formalism of qm, so i am following the book linear algebra done right but is it worth it to study every proof? I mean what is the attitude to follow with such a proof oriented book to eventually have a solid basis in the libear algebra of qm?
 
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If you're not going to bother doing all the proofs, then you probably shouldn't be reading a pure math book.
 
Ahmad Kishki said:
is it worth it to study every proof?
In my opinion yes. Those proofs will really help you understand vector spaces and linear operators.
 
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micromass said:
If you're not going to bother doing all the proofs, then you probably shouldn't be reading a pure math book.

I followed every proof from A to Z so far, but a friend told me that its not worth that much effort, so i thought it would be wise to consult physics forums.
 
Ahmad Kishki said:
I followed every proof from A to Z so far, but a friend told me that its not worth that much effort, so i thought it would be wise to consult physics forums.

It really depends what you want to get out of it. I'm pretty sure you don't need to read the book at all if your goal is just to understand QM. But if you want to understand the math behind it, then reading every proof seems necessary.
 
Ahmad Kishki said:
I followed every proof from A to Z so far, but a friend told me that its not worth that much effort, so i thought it would be wise to consult physics forums.

You need the proofs so you can see what's required to create your own in order to solve problems - as well as cement understanding.

Thanks
Bill
 
micromass said:
It really depends what you want to get out of it. I'm pretty sure you don't need to read the book at all if your goal is just to understand QM.

Unfortunately that type of thinking leads to problems with more advanced work eg check out post 137:
https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/the-born-rule-in-many-worlds.763139/page-7

You need a background in proving this stuff to understand it.

Thanks
Bill
 
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If you are worried the book is too serious, you can always try Linear Algebra Done Wrong :) http://www.math.brown.edu/~treil/papers/LADW/LADW.html

More seriously, to start on quantum mechanics you need the whole of Linear Algebra Done Right, but mostly the main ideas of each chapter. Also, quantum mechanics has lots of tricky infinite dimensional spaces, but the complete intuition for the subject can be gotten from quantum mechanics in finite dimensional vector spaces. A very good non-rigourous linear algebra book for quantum mechanics is Halmos's Finite Dimensional Vector Spaces.
 
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atyy said:
If you are worried the book is too serious, you can always try Linear Algebra Done Wrong :) http://www.math.brown.edu/~treil/papers/LADW/LADW.html

More seriously, to start on quantum mechanics you need the whole of Linear Algebra Done Right, but mostly the main ideas of each chapter. Also, quantum mechanics has lots of tricky infinite dimensional spaces, but the complete intuition for the subject can be gotten from quantum mechanics in finite dimensional vector spaces. A very good non-rigourous linear algebra book for quantum mechanics is Halmos's Finite Dimensional Vector Spaces.

Why "More seriously"? LA done wrong is way better than Axler.
 
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