Linear Algebra: Understanding max(x,y) in x \oplus y

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The discussion revolves around the operation defined as x ⊕ y = max(x, y) within the context of linear algebra. Participants are exploring the implications of this operation and its properties in relation to vector spaces.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are questioning the nature of the operation ⊕, specifically whether it aligns with traditional additive or multiplicative definitions. There is an exploration of whether the operation satisfies properties such as commutativity and associativity.

Discussion Status

Some participants have found the clarification regarding the operation helpful, and there is an ongoing examination of how this operation interacts with the definitions of a vector space. The discussion is active, with multiple interpretations being considered.

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The original poster mentions difficulty in finding explanations and is working within the framework of a problem that defines scalar multiplication normally while introducing this new operation over the reals.

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Not sure if this is the best place for this, its not an entire problem I am having trouble with but a small part of one.
I am working on linear algebra and I can't find a good explanation for
x \oplus y= max(x,y)

What or of max is it? Additive, multiplicative?

Thank you so much been trying to do my own research but can't seem to find it.
 
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It looks like the author is defining a new operation \oplus that is not either addition or multiplication. The result of applying \oplus to two integers is, by definition, the greater of the two integers. Presumably, you are then asked to prove whether or not this operation satisfies certain properties (commutivity, associativity, etc.).

Does that help?

Petek
 
yep exactly that is very helpful! So you think that max(1,2)=2? for example?
The full problem defines scalar multiplication normally and then gives that operation over Reals and asks if it is a vector space.
 
harvellt said:
yep exactly that is very helpful! So you think that max(1,2)=2? for example?
The full problem defines scalar multiplication normally and then gives that operation over Reals and asks if it is a vector space.

Correct, so 1 \oplus 2 = 2.

Petek
 
"Addtion" in a vector space has to satisfy:
1) Associative. Is a\oplus(b\oplus c)= (a\oplus b)\oplus c for all numbers, a, b, and c?
2) Commutative. Is a\oplus b= b\oplus c?
3) Distributive. Is a(b\oplus c)= ab\oplus ac?
4) Additive identity. Is there some "e" such that [math]a\oplus e= a[/math] for all a?
5) Additive inverses. For every number a, is there a number b such that a\oplus b= e, where e is as in (4)?

For example, a\oplus(b\oplus c)= a\oplus max(b,c)= max(a, max(b,c))= max(a,b,c).
 

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