Linear combination of wave function of a Hydrogen Atom

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The discussion revolves around a linear combination of wave functions for a hydrogen atom, specifically the expression Ψ=1/2(Ψ200 +Ψ310+Ψ311+Ψ31-1). Participants are tasked with determining the possible outcomes when measuring the angular momentum operator Lx and their associated probabilities.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss constructing matrices for the raising and lowering operators as a potential method for solving the problem. There are questions about the rationale behind this approach and whether a conceptual strategy exists. Some participants express uncertainty about handling the linear combination of wave functions.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of methods to find the eigenfunctions and eigenvalues related to Lx. Some participants have made progress in calculating Lx but express confusion regarding the implications of combining states with different angular momentum quantum numbers. Guidance has been offered regarding the calculation of operator matrices, but no consensus has been reached on the overall approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the complexity introduced by the presence of both l = 1 and l = 0 states in the linear combination, which raises questions about how to properly account for these in calculations related to probabilities.

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Homework Statement



I am given a linear combination of wave function of HYDROGEN ATOM Ψ=1/2(Ψ200 +Ψ310+Ψ311+Ψ31-1), where the subscripts are n, l, m respectively.

I was asked to find all the possible outcomes when measuring Lx and their corresponding probabilities.

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The Attempt at a Solution



Should I construct matrices of the raising and lowering operator? How should I do so?
I don't really know how to deal with a linear combination of wave functions.
 
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czng71 said:

Homework Statement



I am given a linear combination of wave function of HYDROGEN ATOM Ψ=1/2(Ψ200 +Ψ310+Ψ311+Ψ31-1), where the subscripts are n, l, m respectively.

I was asked to find all the possible outcomes when measuring Lx and their corresponding probabilities.

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The Attempt at a Solution



Should I construct matrices of the raising and lowering operator? How should I do so?
Why would you want to do this? I'm not suggesting you shouldn't, but do you have a reason for doing this? It seems like you're just guessing at this point.

Do you have some sort of strategy for solving the problem? Can you explain conceptually what you want to do even if you don't know how to do the actual math yet? That's where you need to start.

I don't really know how to deal with a linear combination of wave functions.
 
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Why would you want to do this? I'm not suggesting you shouldn't, but do you have a reason for doing this? It seems like you're just guessing at this point.

Do you have some sort of strategy for solving the problem? Can you explain conceptually what you want to do even if you don't know how to do the actual math yet? That's where you need to start.

I think (I guess?) I can find the eigenfunction of Lx first by constructing the matrices of raising and lowering operator, by the relation of Lx=1/2(L+ + L_). Then I can find the eigenvalues, which are the possible outcome when I measure Lx.
 
That's a good start. To find the columns of a matrix representing an operator, you calculate what the operator does to the basis states.
 
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After some work, I worked out that Lx = h(bar) /2 (0 1 0) for l = 1
.                          1 0 1
.                          0 1 0

But now there is the problem: in the question there is a linear combination of states where l = 1 and l = 0. I don't know how to deal with it.

Thank you very much for your help!
 
I think I have worked out a better method:

Lx Ψ= 1/2 (L+ +L_)Ψ = 1/2 (L+Ψ + L_Ψ)
= 1/2 [(L+)(Ψ200 +Ψ310+Ψ311+Ψ31-1) + (L_)(Ψ200 +Ψ310+Ψ311+Ψ31-1)]

Plug in L+(Ym)=h(bar)√(l+m+1)(l-m) (Ym+1) and similarly for L_.

Then we can get the answer? I found that Lx = √2h(bar) or 0.
Is that correct?

Many Thanks!

I am actually still working on how the probabilities add up to 1. I am having trouble on this. There may be mistakes in my calculation or the entire method is incorrect.
 
Don't equate making a measurement with applying the corresponding operator to the state.
 

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