Linear Operators: Relationship Between Action on Kets & Bras

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The discussion centers on the mathematical properties of linear operators, specifically the Hamiltonian operator (H) in quantum mechanics. It clarifies that the relationship between the action of H on kets and bras cannot be simplified to a scalar multiplication, as expressed in the equation = H . Instead, the inner product involves a scalar on the left-hand side and an operator on the right-hand side, which is mathematically invalid. The discussion also emphasizes that the Hermitian nature of the Hamiltonian operator plays a crucial role in its application within the Schrödinger equation.

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This is basically more of a math question than a physics-question, but I'm sure you can answer it. My question is about linear operators. If I write an operator H as (<al and lb> being vectors):
<alHlb>
What is then the relationship between H action the ket and H action on the bra. Is this for example true:
<alHlb> = H <alb>
Which rules determine how the operator acts?
Can it be thought of as a scalar such that instead:
<alHlb> = H* <alb>
My question came naturally as I was applying the position-state <xl to the left side of the schrödinger-equation (H being the hamiltonian and lψ(t)> the state vector:
<xlHlψ(t)>
does this equal to:
H<xlψ(t)>
I reckon it must because I've seen it work the other way around, but why is it precisely so. Doesn't it have to do with the fact that H is hermitian?
 
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aaaa202 said:
This is basically more of a math question than a physics-question, but I'm sure you can answer it. My question is about linear operators. If I write an operator H as (<al and lb> being vectors):
<alHlb>
What is then the relationship between H action the ket and H action on the bra. Is this for example true:
<alHlb> = H <alb>
Which rules determine how the operator acts?
Can it be thought of as a scalar such that instead:
<alHlb> = H* <alb>
My question came naturally as I was applying the position-state <xl to the left side of the schrödinger-equation (H being the hamiltonian and lψ(t)> the state vector:
<xlHlψ(t)>
does this equal to:
H<xlψ(t)>
I reckon it must because I've seen it work the other way around, but why is it precisely so. Doesn't it have to do with the fact that H is hermitian?

You can't move the operator outside the inner product like that.
An operator is a mapping between vector spaces. Think of it like
a machine: you give it one vector and it gives you another vector back.
However, the inner product [tex]\langle a | b \rangle[/tex] is a scalar,
so in your equation
[tex] \langle a | H | b \rangle ~=~ H \langle a | b \rangle[/tex]
you have a scalar on the LHS but an operator on the RHS,
which is mathematical nonsense, in general.
 


But in the question about the schr. equation. Does this not equal to?
<xlHlψ(t)>
<=>
H<xlψ(t)>
<xl is a position eigen-state and lψ(t)> the state vector.
 

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