Linear Proof, don't know how to start it

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The discussion revolves around proving a relationship between eigenvectors and eigenvalues of matrices, specifically focusing on the matrix B defined as B = I - 2A + A^2, where A is an nxn matrix. The original poster seeks to understand how an eigenvector of A corresponds to an eigenvector of B and the relationship between their respective eigenvalues.

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  • Participants explore the action of the matrix B on an eigenvector x of A and discuss the simplification of the expression Bx. There are inquiries about the relationship between the eigenvalues λ and μ, and whether μ can be expressed in terms of λ.

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The discussion includes attempts to simplify the expression for Bx and to clarify the nature of μ as an eigenvalue. Some participants provide guidance on evaluating expressions and emphasize the distinction between scalars and matrices. There is an acknowledgment of progress, but also a recognition of confusion regarding the use of A in the calculations.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of eigenvalues and eigenvectors, with some expressing uncertainty about the implications of their calculations. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to clarify misunderstandings and solidify the mathematical relationships involved.

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Let A be nxn and let [tex]B=I-2A+A^2[/tex].
Show that if [tex]\mathbf{x}[/tex] is an eigenvector of A belonging to an eigenvalue [tex]\lambda[/tex] of A, then [tex]\mathbf{x}[/tex] is also an eigenvector of B belonging to an eigenvalue [tex]\mu[/tex] of B. How are [tex]\lambda[/tex] and [tex]\mu[/tex] related?
 
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Well... what happens if you act 1 - 2A + A^2 on x?
 
nicksauce said:
Well... what happens if you act 1 - 2A + A^2 on x?

I don't know what you mean by that.
 
You want to show that x is an eigenvector B, meaning that for some constant u, Bx = ux.
Thus you need to calculate Bx = (1 -2A + A^2)x = x - 2Ax + A^2x. Can you simplify that further now?
 
[tex]B\mathbf{x}=\mathbf{x}-2A\mathbf{x}+A^2\mathbf{x}=\mathbf{x}-2\lambda\mathbf{x}+A(\lambda\mathbf{x})=\mu\mathbf{x}[/tex]

?
 
Evaluate A(lambda*x), please?
 
Dick said:
Evaluate A(lambda*x), please?

[tex]B\mathbf{x}=\mathbf{x}-2A\mathbf{x}+A^2\mathbf{x}=\mathbf{x}-2\lambda\mathbf{x}+A(\lambda\mathbf{x})=\mathbf{x}-2\lambda\mathbf{x}+(\lambda)^2\mathbf{x}=\mu[/tex]
 
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Then do the quadratic equation or factor which ever is appropriate?
 
Dustinsfl said:
Then do the quadratic equation or factor which ever is appropriate?

You don't have to do much of anything. Just factor x out and say how Bx is related to mu*x.
 
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Should I just solve for mu then by multiplying by 1/x?
 
  • #11
Dustinsfl said:
Should I just solve for mu then by multiplying by 1/x?

No, there's no such thing as 1/x if x is a vector. That's exactly the wrong answer. Just look at x-2*lambda*x+lambda^2*x=mu*x=Bx and tell me what mu is.
 
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So [tex]\mu=I-2\lambda+A\lambda[/tex].
 
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Dustinsfl said:
So [tex]\mu=I-2\lambda+A\lambda[/tex].

mu is a scalar. It's a number. It's not a matrix. It's an EIGENVALUE. Try that again. You were almost there. Now you are going backwards.
 
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Dick said:
mu is a scalar. It's a number. It's not a matrix. It's an EIGENVALUE. Try that again. You were almost there. Now you are going backwards.

[tex]\mu=1-2\lambda+A\lambda[/tex]

But there is still A
 
  • #15
The A is there because once upon a time I asked you to evaluate A(lambda*x). And you did it right. And then you forgot. Why did you do that? That's why I feel things are going backwards.
 
  • #16
Dustinsfl said:
[tex]B\mathbf{x}=\mathbf{x}-2A\mathbf{x}+A^2\mathbf{x}=\mathbf{x}-2\lambda\mathbf{x}+A(\lambda\mathbf{x})=\mathbf{x}-2\lambda\mathbf{x}+(\lambda)^2=\mu\mathbf{x}[/tex]

I did. I just decide not use it apparently.
 
  • #17
Dustinsfl said:
I did. I just decide not use it apparently.

Ok, so 1-2*lambda+lambda^2=mu. Right? I so very hope you agree with this.
 
  • #18
I concur.
 

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