Linear Transformation: find dilating/rotation matrix

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The problem involves finding a matrix that combines rotation and dilation to transform vector A into vector B. Vector A has a length of 8.5 and makes an angle of 5pi/19 with the x-axis, while vector B has a length of 6 and makes an angle of 8pi/19 with the x-axis.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to apply rotation and dilation sequentially, questioning the order of operations and the correctness of the combined transformation matrix.

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Some participants have provided guidance on separating the transformations and suggested multiplying the individual matrices to achieve the desired result. There is ongoing exploration of how to correctly combine the rotation and dilation matrices.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of considering the effects of rotation on the coordinate system and the vector, as well as the implications of the order in which transformations are applied.

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Homework Statement



The vector A has length 8.5, and makes an angle of 5pi/19 with the x-axis.

The vector B has length 6, and makes an angle of 8pi/19 with the x-axis.

Find the matrix which rotates and dilates vector into vector .

Homework Equations


Rotation matrix in counterclockwise direction: \begin{equation}

\left[
\begin{array}{ccc}
cos∅ & -sin∅\\
sin∅ & cos∅\\
\end{array}
\right]

\end{equation}

Dilation matrix:
\begin{equation}

\left[
\begin{array}{ccc}
c & 0\\
0 & c\\
\end{array}
\right]

\end{equation}


The Attempt at a Solution



\begin{equation}

\left[
\begin{array}{ccc}
(12/17)cos(3pi/19) & -sin(3pi/19)\\
sin(3pi/19) & (12/17)cos(3pi/19)\\

\end{array}
\right]

\end{equation}

My line of thinking: to move A into B, it needs to move counterclockwise from its current positions by an angle of 3pi/19. A needs to "shrink" by a factor of 12/17.

However, this is incorrect. I would really appreciate it if someone could point me in the right direction, or even give me a similar example. Thank you.
 
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bcahmel said:

Homework Statement



The vector A has length 8.5, and makes an angle of 5pi/19 with the x-axis.

The vector B has length 6, and makes an angle of 8pi/19 with the x-axis.

Find the matrix which rotates and dilates vector into vector .

Homework Equations


Rotation matrix in counterclockwise direction: \begin{equation}

\left[
\begin{array}{ccc}
cos∅ & -sin∅\\
sin∅ & cos∅\\
\end{array}
\right]

\end{equation}

Dilation matrix:
\begin{equation}

\left[
\begin{array}{ccc}
c & 0\\
0 & c\\
\end{array}
\right]

\end{equation}


The Attempt at a Solution



\begin{equation}

\left[
\begin{array}{ccc}
(12/17)cos(3pi/19) & -sin(3pi/19)\\
sin(3pi/19) & (12/17)cos(3pi/19)\\

\end{array}
\right]

\end{equation}

My line of thinking: to move A into B, it needs to move counterclockwise from its current positions by an angle of 3pi/19. A needs to "shrink" by a factor of 12/17.

However, this is incorrect. I would really appreciate it if someone could point me in the right direction, or even give me a similar example. Thank you.

You can either rotate first, then shrink, or shrink first, then rotate. Also, be careful about rotations: for rotation a coordinate system through angle θ but leaving a vector v = <x,y> unchanged, the coordinates x' and y' of v in the new coordinate system are given by
\pmatrix{x&#039; \\ y&#039;} = \pmatrix{\cos(\theta) &amp; -\sin(\theta)\\<br /> \sin(\theta) &amp; \cos(\theta)} \pmatrix{x\\y}.
However, if we rotate the vector v through angle θ but keeping the coordinate system unchanged, the coordinates x' and y' of the new vector v' are given by
\pmatrix{x&#039; \\ y&#039;} = \pmatrix{\cos(\theta) &amp; \sin(\theta)\\<br /> -\sin(\theta) &amp; \cos(\theta)} \pmatrix{x\\y}.
Note that the two transformation matrices are transposes of each other.

RGV
 
The way you combined the rotation and dilation isn't correct. As Ray said, do one first and then the other.
 
To dilate:\begin{equation}

\left[
\begin{array}{ccc}
(12/17) & 0\\
0 & (12/17) \\

\end{array}
\right]

\end{equation}

To rotate:
\begin{equation}

\left[
\begin{array}{ccc}
cos(3pi/19) & -sin(3pi/19)\\
sin(3pi/19) & cos(3pi/19)\\

\end{array}
\right]

\end{equation}


Does the above look right?

So I'm trying to find matrix, a 2X2 matrix so that: \begin{equation}

\left[
\begin{array}{ccc}
A\\
\\

\end{array}
\right]

*

\left[
\begin{array}{ccc}
8.5cos(5pi/19)\\
8.5sin(5pi/19)\\

\end{array}
\right]

=

\left[
\begin{array}{ccc}
6cos(8pi/19)\\
6sin(8pi/19)\\

\end{array}
\right]

\end{equation}

Is there a way to put these two transformations together, into one matrix, A? Thank you for the help you have given so far.
 
bcahmel said:
So I'm trying to find matrix, a 2X2 matrix so that: \begin{equation}

\left[
\begin{array}{ccc}
A\\
\\

\end{array}
\right]

*

\left[
\begin{array}{ccc}
8.5cos(5pi/19)\\
8.5sin(5pi/19)\\

\end{array}
\right]

=

\left[
\begin{array}{ccc}
6cos(8pi/19)\\
6sin(8pi/19)\\

\end{array}
\right]

\end{equation}

In your original post, if you multiply your dilation matrix by your rotation matrix correctly, you should have a 12/17 times all four entries. Then try that for your A.
 
Thank you LCKurts, vela, and Ray! So to summarize: think of the transformations separately, and then multiply the two transformation matrices together.
Thanks again
 

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