Literature recommendations for Maxwell's equations

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around recommendations for literature on Maxwell's equations, particularly focusing on texts that introduce electrodynamics from the ground up. Participants seek books that effectively use Maxwell's equations to explain various concepts, including direct current, alternating current, and electromagnetic waves.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests book recommendations for learning Maxwell's equations from scratch, emphasizing the need for practical examples.
  • Another suggests Griffith's "Introduction to Electrodynamics" and mentions Purcell and Halliday & Resnick as additional resources.
  • A participant highlights Feynman's Lectures as insightful but not necessarily practical for problem-solving.
  • Another participant recommends "Electromagnetic Vibrations, Waves, and Radiation" by Bekefi and Barrett, noting its depth in waves and radiation, while also mentioning prerequisites in statics and vector calculus.
  • Some participants express strong preferences for Purcell over Halliday & Resnick, with one describing Halliday as a "lame plug-and-chug book." This viewpoint is challenged, with a request for clarification on the criticism.
  • There are discussions about the appropriateness of integral forms of Maxwell's equations for introductory courses compared to vector calculus forms, with differing opinions on which is better suited for beginners.
  • A participant seeks recommendations for a mathematics book on vector calculus that is accessible for physicists, indicating a need for tools commonly used in physics rather than a detailed mathematical approach.
  • Concerns are raised about the necessity of calculus for understanding and applying Maxwell's equations effectively.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a variety of opinions regarding the best texts for learning Maxwell's equations, with no consensus on a single recommended book. Disagreements exist about the effectiveness of Halliday & Resnick compared to Purcell, and there are differing views on the suitability of integral versus vector calculus forms of the equations.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that certain books assume prior knowledge of calculus or statics, which may limit their accessibility for beginners. The discussion also highlights the varying levels of complexity in the recommended texts, indicating a range of prerequisites among them.

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Hello!

I am very interested in learning Maxwells equations, and learn it good. I need a recommendations for books where electrodynamics is presented from scratch
and Maxwell's equations are used to explain most examples. I need examples
like direct current, alternating current, and electro magnetic waves.
 
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What level? For undergraduate Griffith's Introduction to Electrodynamics is a decent text in addition to say those from Purcell or Halliday and Resnick.
 
Thank you. Any more sugesstions?
 
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Also check out Feynman's lecture on physics Vol II. That may not be a practical book used to solve problems, but it has very deep insights into the subject.
 
I have heard Feynman has a good sense of humor. Is it true? My professor told me so.
 
71GA said:
I have heard Feynman has a good sense of humor. Is it true? My professor told me so.

Very true. Feynman used to pull all kinds of pranks and jokes on people.
 
In addition to those mentioned, I really like "electromagnetic vibrations, waves, and radiation" by Bekefi and Barrett. It assumes you already know statics, from something like Halliday and Resnick or Purcell, and it helps if you are comfortable with basic vector calculus (Like from Thomas' calculus) but does waves and elementary radiation extremely well. It is above Halliday and Resnick but below Griffiths. Typsetting looks like from a typewriter, but if you can get past that it is wonderful. It has one of the best treatments of waves in matter (dielectrics, etc.) that I have ever seen.

There are also some nice resources at Prof. Fitzpatrick's site (UT Austin):
http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching.html
Here you will find what are essentially books on electromagnetics at 3 levels: lower division (fresh/soph), upper division, and graduate. I would start here first, since they are free.

Note that if you are planning on buying books, that used copies of old editions can usually be found for little money online.

good luck,

jason
 
Purcell is the best. Halliday is a lame plug-and-chug book, not suitable for anyone who really wants to understand physics.
 
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bcrowell said:
Purcell is the best. Halliday is a lame plug-and-chug book, not suitable for anyone who really wants to understand physics.
Can you tell me more about why this is? Maybe an example. Thank you
 
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71GA said:
Can you tell me more about why this is? Maybe an example. Thank you

He may be confusing H&R's Physics with their Fundamentals of Physics, which is a simplified version of H&R's Physics. But I don't think even Fundamentals would be bad for a first pass, and copies of older editions can be had very cheap. These are both Freshman Physics books that present Maxwell's Equations in integral form, not using div, grad or curl.
 
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Daverz said:
He may be confusing H&R's Physics with their Fundamentals of Physics, which is a simplified version of H&R's Physics. But I don't think even Fundamentals would be bad for a first pass, and copies of older editions can be had very cheap. These are both Freshman Physics books that present Maxwell's Equations in integral form, not using div, grad or curl.

Can you explain why is integral form better than div., grad or curl? Thank you.
 
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71GA said:
Can you explain why is integral form better than div., grad or curl? Thank you.

It's not; it's just a different form of the equations that is appropriate for the freshman physics course that students typically take before they've learned vector calculus.
 
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Daverz said:
It's not; it's just a different form of the equations that is appropriate for the freshman physics course that students typically take before they've learned vector calculus.
This is in fact what i wanted to hear. What about mathematic book recommendations for good vector calculus? I don't want too detailed book... I need mathematic tools that are often used in Physics soo my book should be for a physicists not mathematician.

With kind regards.
 
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71GA said:
This is in fact what i wanted to hear. What about mathematic book recommendations for good vector calculus? I don't want too detailed book... I need mathematic tools that are often used in Physics soo my book should be for a physicists not mathematician.

Have you had calculus? If so, do you still have your calculus text?

My usual recommendations for E&M books are:

Feynman Lectures vol. 2
Nayfeh & Brussel, Electricty and Magnetism
Schwartz, Principles of Electrodynamics
 
  • #17
Daverz said:
Have you had calculus? If so, do you still have your calculus text?

My usual recommendations for E&M books are:

Feynman Lectures vol. 2
Nayfeh & Brussel, Electricty and Magnetism
Schwartz, Principles of Electrodynamics

I haven't had calculus yet.
 
  • #18
71GA said:
I haven't had calculus yet.

You'll need calculus before you can get very far.

Maxwell's equations can be understand conceptually, but you can't calculate much without calculus.
 

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