Living a Long Life: Diet and Habits

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The discussion revolves around the factors contributing to longevity, particularly focusing on diet and mindset. Participants explore various dietary habits, cultural influences, and the role of genetics in living a long life.

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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that mindset plays a crucial role in longevity, arguing that a strong will to live can influence lifespan.
  • Others propose that diet is significant, citing examples like the nutrient-rich soil of Yuzuri Hara potatoes as contributing to the longevity of its residents.
  • There are mentions of studies indicating that a calorie intake slightly below the recommended level may be linked to increased lifespan, particularly in Rhesus monkeys.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the idea that eating less is the only path to longevity, questioning why enjoyable foods are often deemed unhealthy.
  • Genetics is discussed as a potential factor, with some participants noting family histories of long life as evidence of hereditary influences.
  • Humorous exchanges about the experience of being a lab animal and the rights associated with it are present, reflecting a lighter tone amidst the serious topic.
  • There are references to fasting and its potential benefits, though the specifics of these studies are not detailed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of opinions regarding the importance of diet versus mindset in achieving longevity. While some emphasize the role of diet, others highlight the significance of mental attitude and genetics, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with competing views.

Contextual Notes

Some claims rely on anecdotal evidence and personal experiences, and there are references to studies without detailed citations. The discussion includes humor and informal exchanges that may affect the seriousness of the topic.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in health, nutrition, longevity studies, and the interplay between diet and mindset may find this discussion relevant.

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If one wants to live a LOOOONG life doe's it matter what one eats and drinks?

I recon it is all in the mind set, if one doe's not want to kick the bucket one will endure,
just so long as some thing doe's not come along and throw a spanner in the works.
 
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Chocolate and peanutbutter are a good start.
 
glondor said:
Chocolate and peanutbutter are a good start.
Eliminating or limiting?
 
glondor said:
Chocolate and peanutbutter are a good start.


I guess you are American, i tried a peanut butter and (jam) sarnie, (jelly is the wobbly stuff that kids eat), and it was the most evil taste i have ever experienced.
 
I've heard that calorie intake slightly below the recommended level is being conducted in longevity studies of Rhesus monkeys.

EAT LESS - LIVE LONGER

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This is that great Scientific American show which also discussed telomeres.

Transcript http://www.pbs.org/saf/transcripts/transcript1003.htm#2

Whay can't it be "eat more, live longer"? Why is all the tasty stuff bad for you?

I was curious about follow up.

http://www2.medicine.wisc.edu/home/people-search/people/staff/1527/WEINDRUCH_RICHARD_H
 
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wolram said:
I guess you are American, i tried a peanut butter and (jam) sarnie, (jelly is the wobbly stuff that kids eat), and it was the most evil taste i have ever experienced.

Are you serious?!? Wow. The peanut butter and jam sandwich is like an old friend (only it doesn't ever call you at 3 in the morning drunk, crying that it can't find the car).
 
wolram said:
If one wants to live a LOOOONG life doe's it matter what one eats and drinks?

I recon it is all in the mind set, if one doe's not want to kick the bucket one will endure,
just so long as some thing doe's not come along and throw a spanner in the works.

I'm pretty sure it's not all in the mind set since villages where people live significantly longer have been connected to their foods. Yuzuri Hara is the example that stands out in my mind. I think it was their potatoes (or more specifically, the nutrient rich soil the potatoes were grown in).

That being said, a healthy mindset is required along side a healthy physical lifestyle for optimum living.
 
Evo said:
I've heard that calorie intake slightly below the recommended level is being conducted in longevity studies of Rhesus monkeys.

This is that great Scientific American show which also discussed telomeres.

Transcript http://www.pbs.org/saf/transcripts/transcript1003.htm#2

Whay can't it be "eat more, live longer"? Why is all the tasty stuff bad for you?

I was curious about follow up.

http://www2.medicine.wisc.edu/home/people-search/people/staff/1527/WEINDRUCH_RICHARD_H

Cool, but if i become a lab animal will i still have human rights? may be if i live an extra 50 yrs i will come to like peanut butter.
 
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Pythagorean said:
I'm pretty sure it's not all in the mind set since villages where people live significantly longer have been connected to their foods. Yuzuri Hara is the example that stands out in my mind. I think it was their potatoes (or more specifically, the nutrient rich soil the potatoes were grown in).

That being said, a healthy mindset is required along side a healthy physical lifestyle for optimum living.

I still think one has to be an occurred cuss, and even genetics play a large role (no one in my family has died young), excepting an uncle who died in ww1.
 
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wolram said:
I still think one has to be an occurred cuss, and even genetics play a large role (no one in my family has died young), excepting an uncle who died in ww1.
My father's side of the family was so long-lived that someone had to kill one of them to start a cemetery.
 
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turbo-1 said:
My father's side of the family was so long-lived that someone had to kill one of them to start a cemetery.
:smile:

Pickled in chili i guess.
 
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wolram said:
:smile:

Pickled in chili i guess.
No, that side of the family is Irish. They probably got the old gent pickled (I'm thinking single-malt) and cold-cocked him before he could get the best of them.
 
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wolram said:
Cool, but if i become a lab animal will i still have human rights? may be if i live an extra 50 yrs i will come to like peanut butter.

Hey, don't knock it. If you become a lab animal, you'll have MORE rights than a human! No more drafty windows, and someone will come in every day to change your bedding and give you food and beverage and check that you're still healthy. It's a pretty sweet deal. :biggrin:
 
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Seaweed!
 
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Moonbear said:
Hey, don't knock it. If you become a lab animal, you'll have MORE rights than a human! No more drafty windows, and someone will come in every day to change your bedding and give you food and beverage and check that you're still healthy. It's a pretty sweet deal. :biggrin:


Okay, so where do i sign up?
 
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wolram said:
Okay, so where do i sign up?

Let's not make hasty decisions here. I don't think most lab animals have the privilege to use the internet. You might be cut off from PF and we all know what that means.
 
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misgfool said:
Let's not make hasty decisions here. I don't think most lab animals have the privilege to use the internet. You might be cut off from PF and we all know what that means.


A lot of people shouting YIPEEEEE?:smile:
 
  • #19
wolram said:
A lot of people shouting YIPEEEEE?:smile:

No, that's not true... well maybe your spouse, but not the rest of us. That razor sharp wits of yours is hard currency here.
 

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