Lobbying for the 2016 Olympics: What Does It Mean for Chicago?

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The discussion revolves around the implications and processes involved in lobbying for Chicago to host the 2016 Summer Olympics. Participants explore the nature of lobbying, the logistical challenges of hosting the event, and the political dynamics surrounding the bid.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the nature of lobbying by the Obamas, wondering if it involves bribery or political favors.
  • There is mention of a complex application process for hosting the Olympics, emphasizing the need for government support to ensure financial backing if the city encounters difficulties.
  • Concerns are raised about the historical bribery scandals associated with previous Olympic bids, although some express confidence in Chicago's political integrity.
  • Participants note that the Olympics is fundamentally a business focused on financial interests, including trademark protection.
  • Logistical challenges are highlighted, particularly regarding the location of venues in densely populated areas along Chicago's lakefront.
  • One participant suggests that Chicago's bid may be less compelling compared to Rio, which has not hosted the Olympics before and is seen as a rising nation.
  • Another participant humorously questions whether athletes would need to run in the opposite direction if the Olympics were held in Brazil.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the viability of Chicago's bid versus Rio's, with no consensus on which city is more likely to win the bid. The discussion includes both support for Chicago and arguments favoring Rio, indicating an unresolved debate.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the logistical complexities of hosting the Olympics in a major city, as well as the historical context of bribery in Olympic bidding processes. There is also an implicit recognition of the cultural and economic factors influencing the decision-making process.

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When they say the Obamas are lobbying to bring the 2016 summer olympics to Chicago, what are they actually doing? Are they bribing, or return some political favor back?. What exactly is lobbying?
 
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At this point just saying "I'm for it" is enough.
There is a long complex application process to check that the host city can build the infrastructure and organize the event - but the IOC also like to know the nation's government is behind a bid - so that when the city falls behind or runs out of money (inevitably) they will step in and bail them out.

It's unlikely to go to a city where their nation's government says - it's upto them, don't expect any help from us!

There were bribery scandals surrounding the Salt Lake City and Atlanta games - but obviously this wouldn't occur in a city with such a long history of political probity as Chicago
 
mgb_phys said:
There were bribery scandals surrounding the Salt Lake City and Atlanta games - but obviously this wouldn't occur in a city with such a long history of political probity as Chicago

lol, vote early, and vote often!


also, the Olympics, as lofty as its goals are, is still a business. a business that protects its trademarks rather zealously. in the end, it is all about the money.
 
Proton Soup said:
lol, vote early, and vote often!


also, the Olympics, as lofty as its goals are, is still a business. a business that protects its trademarks rather zealously. in the end, it is all about the money.

True, they are famous for their rigorous defense of the word "Olympic." So much so that many years ago, when there was a movement in the Seattle area to bring the Olympics here, one potential problem was recognized. We have a mountain range nearby called the Olympics. And everywhere you look...everywhere!...you'll see businesses with that name. Olympic Laundry, Olympic Tax Service, Olympic Cafe, Olympic Auto Repair...you get the idea.

If Seattle were ever to get the Olympic Games, what would the committee do about all these already-named businesses?
 
jobyts said:
When they say the Obamas are lobbying to bring the 2016 summer olympics to Chicago, what are they actually doing? Are they bribing, or return some political favor back?. What exactly is lobbying?

It takes years of planning to organize an Olympics. To complicate matters, Chicago's plan is to locate the venues along the lake front in some of the cities most densely populated areas.

With 2 airports, a major highway system, and thousands of hotel rooms, the city is well equipped to handle the event - but logistics will be interesting.

President Obama lives in Chicago and has deep ties to the city leaders. He, along with Oprah, are logical spokespersons to help sell the cities bid. Chicago is fortunate that President Obama is willing to make such a dedicated commitment.
 
Ok, Chicago is out. Rio's argument is more compelling and reasonable. Olympics has never been to South America.
 
jobyts said:
Olympics has never been to South America.
Would they have to run around the track in the other direction?

I would have though Brazil had a good chance, emerging BRIC nation, lots of young sports-mad advertising viewers and I wouldn't have thought the US TV networks were offering enough money these days to have much influence
 

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