Location of point mass based on graphs

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The discussion revolves around determining the location of a point mass based on waveforms presented in two figures at a specific time. The subject area involves wave motion and the behavior of a mass in relation to a wave's propagation.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the wave's position and the point mass's vertical movement, questioning the interpretation of the graphs and the implications of the mass's motion.

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Some participants have provided clarifications regarding the distinction between the wave's constant phase and the vertical movement of the point mass. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of the mass's direction of movement at the specified time.

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Participants are considering the effects of wave motion on a stationary object and the assumptions about the mass's vertical movement at a given time, which may influence the interpretation of the graphs.

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Homework Statement
A simple harmonic transverse wave is travelling in the medium along negative x-direction. The waveform at t=1 s is shown in Figure a. The time dependence of displacement of a point mass in the medium is shown in Figure b. This point mass may be located at...
A) x = 0 m
B) x = 1 m
C) x = 2 m
D) x = 3 m
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Since figure (a) shows the waveform at t = 1 s, I also look at figure (b) when t = 1 s. The value of y is zero so I try to find the location of x from figure (a) for which y = 0. There are two value of x, 0 and 2 m.

Let say x = 0 is point P and x = 2 m is point Q. The period is 4 s so at t = 1 s, the wave has travelled to left for a quarter wave so initially point P is at x = 1 m and point Q is at x = 3 m so I think the answer is either B or D but I don't know how to determine which one is correct.

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You're mistaking the point of constant phase on the wave with the location of the point mass. The point mass moves vertically; it doesn't move along the direction of propagation of the wave.
 
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songoku said:
... Since figure (a) shows the waveform at t = 1 s, I also look at figure (b) when t = 1 s. The value of y is zero so I try to find the location of x from figure (a) for which y = 0. There are two value of x, 0 and 2 m.
It is also important to consider either the point is moving upwards or downwards at t=1 s.
Imagine a paper ship floating on a lake, staying at same place, while riding (up and down) a wave caused by a stone falling nearby.
 
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vela said:
You're mistaking the point of constant phase on the wave with the location of the point mass. The point mass moves vertically; it doesn't move along the direction of propagation of the wave.
Ah yes
Lnewqban said:
It is also important to consider either the point is moving upwards or downwards at t=1 s.
Imagine a paper ship floating on a lake, staying at same place, while riding (up and down) a wave caused by a stone falling nearby.
I think I get it. At t = 1 s, the mass is moving downwards so the answer should be x = 0 since x = 2 m is moving upwards.

Thank you very much for the help and explanation vela and Lnewqban
 
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