Long string wrapped around cylinder. Find cylinders angular speed?

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The problem involves a long string wrapped around a cylinder that is free to rotate. The cylinder has a diameter of 6.3 cm and is initially at rest. The string is pulled with a constant acceleration of 2.0 m/s² until 1.5 m of string has unwound, and the goal is to find the cylinder's angular speed in rpm at that moment.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the angular velocity of the cylinder and the velocity of the string. There are attempts to calculate the number of revolutions based on the distance unwound and the circumference of the cylinder. Questions arise about using kinematic equations to find time and how to relate average and instantaneous velocities.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various approaches to relate linear and angular quantities. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need for instantaneous velocity rather than average velocity, but no consensus has been reached on a specific method to solve the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of the problem's parameters, including the constant acceleration and the unwound distance. There is an emphasis on ensuring that calculations align with the physical principles governing rotational motion.

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Homework Statement


A long string is wrapped around a 6.3-cm-diameter cylinder, initially at rest, that is free to rotate on an axle. The string is then pulled with a constant acceleration of 2.0 m/s2 until 1.5 m of string has been unwound. If the string unwinds without slipping, what is the cylinder's angular speed, in rpm, at this time


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I am not even sure how to really start this problem. I used C=2pi*r and got .1979m so I know that is the distance of each revolution. So then I did 1.5/.1979 and got 7.5788 total revolutions. I am not sure if I even need to do that but that is all I have come up with. I am not sure where to go from here.
 
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So then I did 1.5/.1979 and got 7.5788 total revolutions.

This is almost right. You want to relate the angular velocity of the cylinder to the velocity of the string. Once you have the velocity of the string in m/s, you can convert it to rad/s (and then rpm or whatever).
 
vertigo said:
This is almost right. You want to relate the angular velocity of the cylinder to the velocity of the string. Once you have the velocity of the string in m/s, you can convert it to rad/s (and then rpm or whatever).

Could I use x=1/2at2 and then solve for t and get t= 1.22. Then do 7.5788 rev/1.22s and then convert to rpm?
 
tangential acceleration=radius * angular acceleration therefore you can find angular acceleration

Torque=I*angular acceleration; I is for cylinder therefore you can find torque

But torque also equals Force*radus; setting the torques equal allows you to find force

Work=force*distance spring is pulled

but work is also= .5*I*w^2 therefore you can find w (angular velocity)

Change w from rad/sec to RPM's
 
kerbyjonsonjr said:
Could I use x=1/2at2 and then solve for t and get t= 1.22. Then do 7.5788 rev/1.22s and then convert to rpm?

No, you want instantaneous velocity, not average velocity.
 

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