Searching for a Lost PhD Thesis on Black Holes

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The discussion centers on locating a PhD thesis related to black holes, specifically a theoretical paper authored by a Chinese researcher. The paper explores the relationship between quantum information added to a black hole and its surface area, suggesting that the increase in surface area is proportional to the information measured in Planck units. Related works by Jacob D. Bekenstein and Shahar Hod are referenced as foundational texts in black hole thermodynamics and the holographic principle.

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The paper is reasonably old and was written as a phd thesis by (I believe) a man from china. It was basically the first paper on the subject and in it he effectively (from what I understand) dropped particles into a black hole, counting the information added, and saw that the black hole changed in size such that the information contained by the particles measured in bits of order plank length was proportional to the change in surface area of the black hole. I want to try to read this paper, but cannot remember the name of the author nor the title. Google searching, skimming the holographic principle wikipedia page, information theory page all provided no results.

If anyone knows the paper I'm referring to and would either link it, drop the name, or at least the authors name, I would appreciate it.
 
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BiGyElLoWhAt said:
in it he effectively (from what I understand) dropped particles into a black hole

Nobody has an actual black hole in their lab.

I suspect you are referring to experiments where sound waves in a fluid are used to create a state which has a sort of "horizon" that has some similarities with a black hole horizon:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_black_hole
 
As Peter points out, nobody has a black hole in the lab. So you know neither the author, nor the title, nor the journal, nor the date, nor exactly what the paper is about.

It will be tough to find.
 
Here are related papers about dropping a box into a black hole. The area of the black hole should increase in proportion to the entropy in the box. It's a quantum phenomenon, so the area can be thought of as being in Planck units.

https://qig.itp.uni-hannover.de/~giulini/papers/BlackHoleSeminar/Bekenstein_PRD9_1974.pdf
Generalized second law of thermodynamics in black-hole physics
Jacob D. Bekenstein

https://arxiv.org/abs/1511.03665v1
Bekenstein's generalized second law of thermodynamics: The role of the hoop conjecture
Shahar Hod
 
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But from the description the OP is looking for some sort of experimental paper.
 
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Yes I should have specified I suppose... It is a theoretical paper. From what I understand it was the first paper that suggested the holographic principal (which it wasn't called at the time).

I've been on a physics history kick lately. Trying to look at some of the first papers on various topics. This one has been on my mind and I just can't remember what it is. I am fairly certain this specific paper was written by a Chinese man as his PhD thesis.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
As Peter points out, nobody has a black hole in the lab. So you know neither the author, nor the title, nor the journal, nor the date, nor exactly what the paper is about.

It will be tough to find.
I know that no one has a black hole in their lab... The premise of the paper is (theoretically) drop particles into a black hole, count the quantum information added to the black hole, calculate the changes in the black hole, discover that the information added is proportional to the change in surface are. I know I'm asking for a lot, I remember just stumbling on it back when I wasn't very interested in it, which is unfortunate. I can't remember where. I might have to rewatch some Susskind lectures, it might have been brought up in one of them or maybe not. I wish I knew. It's been bugging me for a while.
 
BiGyElLoWhAt said:
The premise of the paper is (theoretically) drop particles into a black hole, count the quantum information added to the black hole, calculate the changes in the black hole, discover that the information added is proportional to the change in surface are

The classic theoretical papers on this are Bekenstein's; @atyy linked to two of them in post #4.
 
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