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The forum discussion centers around the mathematical expression 6÷2(2+1) and the confusion it generates regarding order of operations. Participants highlight the debate over "implied multiplication" and its lack of formal definition in standard mathematical texts. The conversation also touches on the Lambert W function and its applications in various fields, asserting its relevance alongside traditional functions like sine. Ultimately, the discussion emphasizes the importance of clarity in mathematical notation and the need for educators to address these ambiguities in teaching.

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  • #31
Can a table of values for W be computed?

ie

z in cloum a, W(z) in colum b.
 
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  • #32
houlahound said:
Can a table of values for W be computed?

ie

z in cloum a, W(z) in colum b.

Yes, in exactly the same way that one can be computed for the log and the sin function.
 
  • #33
K, I will give the link a proper read, I stopped when it defined W as inverse branches of something else, what does that even mean.
 
  • #34
It means that the ##W## function is an inverse function.
For example, ##log(z) = w## if and only if ##e^w = z##. This means that the ##\log## is the inverse function of the exponential.

But situations like the log and the exponential aren't always this simple. Take ##w =\sqrt{z}##. It is certainly true that ##w^2 = z##, but ##w## isn't the only value for which ##w^2 = z##, also ##(-w)^2 = z##. So there are two solutions to ##w^2 = z##. We choose one solution (namely the positive one) and call that ##\sqrt{z}##. But we have made a quite arbitrary choice here, we could also take the negative. We say that the square root function has two branches (one for each choice). So there is a negative branch of numbers whose square is ##z## and a positive branch.

In the same way, there is no unique ##w## such that ##we^w = z##. A choice must be made (in some case, in others there is a unique solution). These two choices define two "branches" of the W function.
 
  • #35
OK this I can do, expansion of W

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This also

ETA

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  • #36
houlahound said:
OK this I can do, expansion of W

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This maybe

Yes, in the same way that the sin and the logarithm have such expansions! You see, there is little difference between the W and the logarithm. The only difference is that you've learned the log at a young age and thus are more "used" to it.
 
  • #37
But this discussion started that W can not be expressed by more elementary functions when from above clearly it can.

I have really enjoyed and value this discussion cos I got some new math. Appreciate you sticking with.
 
  • #38
houlahound said:
But this discussion started that W can not be expressed by more elementary functions when from above clearly it can.

The term elementary function is a technical term with a very specific meaning. You shouldn't put too much importance at these terms. A function being not-elementary doesn't mean it's hard to compute or anything.
 

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