Loop Quantum Gravity/Cosmology ~ for the layman?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the accessibility of Loop Quantum Gravity (LQG) and Loop Quantum Cosmology (LQC) literature for laypersons. Participants express a desire for non-mathematical resources that explain these concepts in an understandable way, while also exploring the differences between LQG and LQC.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes the lack of non-mathematical books on LQG and LQC for laypeople, referencing their enjoyment of Brian Greene's and Lee Smolin's works.
  • Another participant suggests checking Abhay Ashtekar's website for popularizations and "semipopular" writings related to LQG and LQC.
  • A participant expresses curiosity about the differences between LQG and LQC, assuming they relate to "loops" rather than "strings," and questions whether LQC implies a bouncing universe.
  • One participant clarifies that LQG is a theory of gravity, while LQC is the cosmological application of that theory.
  • Another participant confirms the distinction between loops and strings and acknowledges the clarification provided.
  • A later reply mentions a specific book, "Three Roads to Quantum Gravity" by Lee Smolin, as a popular-level resource on LQG.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need for more accessible literature on LQG and LQC, but there is no consensus on the availability of such resources. The distinction between LQG and LQC is clarified, but questions about the implications of LQC remain open.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the completeness and currentness of resources available on Ashtekar's website, and there are unresolved questions about the implications of LQC for cosmology.

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I've read Brian Greene's "Elegant Universe" and most of Lee Smolin's "The trouble with Physics". I found them both to be decent books. Honestly, I like them because they did not go to in depth with any math. I've read other misc papers that have been posted here at PF, but some of those equations make my head hurt. :shy: I really like how Greene explained the basics of string theory but, I haven't seen anything that was a LQG/C book/article for the layperson.

Is there anything that is available? free or not..
 
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No there isn't! It is a big gap. Someone needs to write that kind of nonmathematical book.

You can always check at Abhay Ashtekar's personal website. He is currently the main leader in Loop Quantum Cosmology.
At his website he has links to popularizations (illustrated magazine articles) and what he calls "semipopular" writing.

some of the stuff at Ashtekar's website is about LQG (the full theory) and some is about LQC (the specialized application to cosmology, resolving the big bang into a big bounce).
We should sift thru it. Some is likely to be several years old. I don't know of anything that is perfect.

I just looked at Ashtekar's site
http://cgpg.gravity.psu.edu/people/Ashtekar/articles.html
and didn't see anything I especially liked in the "semipopular" articles list
He is probably too busy to update the collection of links.
 
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marcus said:
Someone needs to write that kind of non mathematical book.
So, what are you doing over the next 6 months..:smile:
But seriously, thanks for the link, I'll check it out. I also saw your thread with Singh's video.
I guess I'll be starting there..
marcus said:
..some of the stuff at Ashtekar's website is about LQG (the full theory) and some is about LQC (the specialized application to cosmology, resolving the big bang into a big bounce)...
Ok, I'm sure this is totally basic to you but, what is the difference between LQG & LQC. I'm assuming these are not about strings, but "loops" of some type? Working from that assumption, how does this make the big bang a bounce? Does that imply a "repeating or bouncing" universe of some sort? Is this the leading TOE candidate? .. sorry for my noobishness.
 
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g33kski11z said:
Ok, I'm sure this is totally basic to you but, what is the difference between LQG & LQC.

Loop Quantum Gravity is a potential theory of gravity, whereas Loop Quantum Cosmology is the cosmology coming from such a theory (in the same way that string/braneworld cosmology has its foundations in string theory).

I'm moving this to Beyond the Standard Model, since it is better suited there.
 
cristo said:
Loop Quantum Gravity is a potential theory of gravity, whereas Loop Quantum Cosmology is the cosmology coming from such a theory.
Thank you for clearing that up for me. So, is my assumption about "loops" as opposed to "strings" correct?
 
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Actually there is a book that talks about LQG at a popular level: "Three Roads to Quantum Gravity" by Lee Smolin.
 

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