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The problem involves a metal loop falling through a magnetic field, focusing on the concepts of terminal velocity and induced electromotive force (EMF). The loop's dimensions, mass, resistance, and the characteristics of the magnetic field are provided, with specific questions regarding the terminal velocity and the time taken to exit the field.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the induced EMF in the loop and its relationship to the current and forces acting on the loop. There is an exploration of how to derive the terminal velocity and the time to exit the magnetic field, with some questioning the interdependencies of the variables involved.

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Some participants have offered guidance on using relevant equations to relate the induced EMF, current, and forces. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between these variables, with some participants seeking clarification on the logic behind the equations and their application.

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Participants are navigating the assumptions regarding the forces acting on the loop, particularly the upward force due to the induced current and its effect on the loop's motion. There is also a mention of the negligible time to reach terminal velocity, which may influence the calculations for the time to exit the field.

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Homework Statement


The plane of a 20cm x 20cm metal loop with a mass of 10g and a resistance of 0.010 ohms is oriented vertically. A 1.0 T horizontal magnetic field, perpendicular to the loop, fills the top half of the loop. There is no magnetic field through the bottom half of the loop. The loop is released from rest and allowed to fall.
a) Show that the loop reaches a terminal velocity and find a value for the terminal velocity.
b) How long will it take the loop to leave the field? Assume that the time needed to reach the terminal velocity is negligible. How does this compare to the time it would take the loop to fall the same distance in the absence of a field?


Homework Equations


terminal velocity equation = sqrt. (4mg/A)
magnetic flux = A B cos(theta)
I = V/R
I'm not sure if I need other equations...

The Attempt at a Solution



I tried finding the magnetic flux, and I got 0.02 Wb. I know that the initial velocity of the loop is 0 m/s. I am also wondering if there would be some sort of force upward to resist the movement of the loop downward, so that maybe the speed of the loop is slowed somewhat during falling.

Any help would be greatly appreciated, as I am really stuck on how to answer this questions.
Thanks!
 
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Consider the induced EMF in the loop as it cuts through the magnetic field and the resulting current. Then consider that you have a current-carrying wire moving through a magnetic field--what's the force on it?

Terminal velocity will be reached when the net force on the loop is zero.
 
use
E=B*length*v
then divide E by R to get I
then use
F=B*I*length=mg
solve for speed, then distance/time will give you time needed

for the second part consider the direction of the force applied
 
esalihm said:
use
E=B*length*v
then divide E by R to get I
then use
F=B*I*length=mg
solve for speed, then distance/time will give you time needed

for the second part consider the direction of the force applied

First, I know this is an old thread... But can you expand on this?

How can you solve for E = B*L*v if you don't know v? And then, how could you solve for I?

I think the logic here makes sense to me, but I am not making all the connections.
 
Nevermind, I see that you are plugging these formulas into each other. Got it!
 

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